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erastes ([personal profile] erastes) wrote2009-02-26 06:05 pm
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Lets talk about sex (again)

Jessewave has an interesting discussion going (I love Jessewave's Blog because she so often has interesting discussions) about "m/m" and the level of sex and emotional impact within them. E.g. what do people like? When is too much? Etc etc. Pop along and add your two cents.

What interested me was the promiscuity section. I've seen this discussed on many a het romance forum and I am gobsmacked that most people don't want promiscuity in their book, or unfaithfulness at least. They don't want any unfaithfulness at all from their heroes once they've met "the one."  I find this baffling, really.  Unfaithfulness (as I said in the discussion) is a standard romance trope.

I mean - look at Gone with the Wind (to pull one title from the ether) if Scarlett had remained "true" to either Ashley or Rhett it would have been a much smaller, and a much lesser book. She wouldn't have got married twice for a start.

In these discussions of both types (m/f and m/m) people say they won't read on if someone is unfaithful--they'd certainly not have got far with Standish then, with Rafe and his brain in his breeches.

Do you agree?  Do you think it's because people think--deep down--that a Rake can't ever be reformed and that the HEA won't last?

So after you've commented on Wave's discussion, pop back and talk to me about unfaithfulness, will ya?

ETA: R W Day is also discussing this, purely co-incidentally
, so go and chat to her too!!

[identity profile] emmyjag.livejournal.com 2009-02-27 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
For me, the Frank/Claire/Jamie thing was different because Claire wasn't intending to go back in time, and once she was there, she had no idea that it was possible to go forward again. Should she live out her life alone, or move on and make the best of it? Also, my vague memory of these books seems to be that Claire married Jaime because of political reasons, or because she had to for some reason I don't remember. Not that it wasn't immediately consummated, but still...

Then, when Jaime pushed her through the rocks again after Culloden to save her life, Claire had no intentions of going back. She waited until after Frank was long gone and Brianna was an adult to try to get back to Jaime. By then, it was a good 19 years later and Jaime and rightly moved on with his life as well.

Much different than two characters who can't get it together and just boink anything with a pulse passing by.