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If you missed my post of this morning, pop along over to Lust Bites to be silly with me about gay historicals.

It makes me laugh, you know that when the "big" reviewers pick up something of a genre that they haven't read before they are often impressed with it's "freshness" or its "innovation" or its a "new take on a story".  I've seen this with reviewers of m/f/m historicals, and this book is a prime bloody example.  In my eyes (and believe me I don't read a lot of vampire tales) there is nothing original, innovative or fresh about this book. Sorry, Mr Holland.

See if you can guess all the derivations that I spotted?  I think I made at least four - you may see more.

A young woman in the present day stomps into a lawyer's office and demands that the lawyer gives her access to a certain crypt that he has the keys to. Apparently the young woman is convinced that Byron's memoires are buried in the crypt, and that they must be uncovered for the good of literature.  I was with her up to this point, but I don't think I would have gone down into a crypt which basically was the last place her mother was known to be heading before she disappeared forever.  OK!  So we have the creepy house "DON'T GO NEAR THE CASTLE" scenario.  She gets scared and decides not to go, but of course, Flossie (real name Rebecca Ruthven.. yes.. exactly...) ends up there anyway. Ta da!  Bet you didn't see that coming.

There she finds Lord Byron who decides to bore her to death by telling her the story of his life, and frankly it made me pretty glad that I'd never met Polidori, Byron, Shelley and co, because I'd have wanted to smack them around quite a bit. The only sensible one seemed to be Mary Shelley and that was probably because she was the only one who didn't fall in love with Gary-Stu the Vampire. Sorry. Vampyre.  (Didn't Pratchett have a joke about that spelling?)

Byron rogers his way across Greece and falls in with a handsome boy who he feels that he could fall in love with. I fell around laughing here as every book I randomly grab off the library shelf inevitably turns gay (or is every book in my library gay?) but he loses touch with him.  He then gets invited to a big scary castle by a commanding and strangely compelling man with piercing eyes.  Anyone see where we are going here?  Scary burning eyes (Vakhel Pasha) is mad for Stuey Byron (as everyone is) and turns Byron into a vampire and off we go. Before you all rush off and buy it, the gay scenes are a bit of a cheat - pretty Greek lad turns out to be a girl (gah!) but Byron still falls in love whatever. He's not fussy. 

I nearly put the book back in the library bag when we got to the major sex scene because Byron says that his sperm smelled of Sandalwood and the girl smelled of roses.  Also Byron (and Vakhel Pasha) are able to go out in the midday sun (well, he is English!) but even so - there wasn't any sparkling.

OK. Bring in a character called Lovelace, who I ASSUME is the character from Clarissa although that's not clarified, Polidori, Shelley (all of whom are in love with Byron) add a twist that in order to be immortal a vampire must eat one of his own family, takes on the strengths of any his kills - but can only be killed by one that he's made (there can be only vun, apparently) and a really stupid ending - this was the kind of book that I put aside regretting that I'd spent time reading.

So, that's that. Not recommended by me, even if everyone else seemed to love it.

ETA: Oh and Byron fires his gun four times in a row.  yeah. right.  So he's got what? a time machine? Stupid editors?  You choose.

Date: 2008-09-01 07:03 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] wildestranger.livejournal.com
That book is so, so awful. I'm a Byronist and it made me cringe several times - not that I would have necessarily wanted to meet Lord Byron, he seems to have been a dickhead in many ways, but don't judge him based on this book, cause Tom Holland does not do him justice. Also, Lovelace there is probably a reference to the Earl of Lovelace who married Byron's daughter Ada. I can't imagine Holland has read Clarissa *sneers*.

Date: 2008-09-01 07:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valarltd.livejournal.com
Gahhhh!

Someone saw Gothic one time too many (the whole Polidori/Shelley/Byron thing) and decided to throw in vampyres.

Vampyre is a spelling that should only be used if you also spell it Ye Olde Antique Shoppe.

Date: 2008-09-01 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tharain.livejournal.com
LOLed at the article over at Lust Bites. MUCH AMUSEMENT.

But in the "What Not TO Say" category, "rock-hard abs" was left out!

Rebecca Ruthven.. yes.. exactly...

::screams and starts stabbing things::

Edited Date: 2008-09-01 07:35 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-09-01 07:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
*giggles* I love you!

He was a whiney EMO git and deserved slapping. Ah - didn't know about the Earl of Lovelace, thank you.

There's a really amusing part when Byron is attempting to kill Pasha - and he fires his gun four times in quick succession.

ORLY? In 1815? I don't fink so!

Date: 2008-09-01 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kathleenbradean.livejournal.com
I am about to fall into a deep swoon over all of you. *wrist to forehead. where's that damn purple crushed velvet fainting couch when I need it?*

Correct my historical inaccuracy here, but didn't the Victorians start putting pantloons on their furniture after Byron humped the davenport one too many times?

Date: 2008-09-01 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
Yes, that's the impression I got. And borrowed a few other themes too.

I did notice that someone is now using the term wampyr which is just one step too far, imho!

Date: 2008-09-01 07:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
*hands you a bigger knife*

Date: 2008-09-01 07:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
It's certainly more GOTH than Gothic. All it needed was Teenage Spirit in the background and a black painted bedroom. EMO-Byron.

*dies about the pantaloons*

That text/mp3 mystery

Date: 2008-09-01 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shieldwallbooks.livejournal.com
Erastes,

Knowing I cannot read standard print books, you sent me a text or pdf file... I also bought the print book. I then used software called Text Aloud to convert the print file to a sound file so I could listen to your book... for my use only. Hope that reassures you.

By the way, my novel "An Involuntary King" which is due out this month, has a gay subplot. It is not a sweet one, but I myslef would not mind having a lover as devoted as MacDhui. http://www.shield-wall.com .

Nan Hawthorne
medieval-novels.com

Date: 2008-09-01 08:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] haydenthorne.livejournal.com
I'm experiencing the same frustrations regarding genre gay YA stuff. Actually, I see NOTHING out there. Hmm...

Date: 2008-09-01 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valarltd.livejournal.com
The only way to get away with wampyr is if it's coming from someone for whom that is the native term.

It worked in "The MindWorm" by C. M.Kornbluth, because our vampire was feeding among the very lower classes of Easter European immigrants.

Date: 2008-09-01 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
Yes, and what staggered me is that I could see all the derivative gumpf in this - notwithstanding the writing isn't that bad - but it had rave reviews from the Independent, Time Out and others.

Gah.

Re: That text/mp3 mystery

Date: 2008-09-01 08:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
Thanks Nan, that clears things up. I look forward to reading your book!

Date: 2008-09-01 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] essayel.livejournal.com
It's books like this that make me feel inclined to stick to reading fan fiction. If he'd had a decent beta she'd have NEVER let him perpetrate that! I wouldn't have. I'd have slapped him around and hopefully made slapping The Regency Breakfast Club around unnecessary.Getting a beta for non-fandom related fiction is pretty difficult but it can be done.

Date: 2008-09-01 09:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aigooism.livejournal.com
BWAHAHAHAHA! Button!sex! XD

And good lord. The whole meeting the Byron and the crew part would have intrigued me, but at the same time if I were to read this actual story, I think I'd have wanted to shoot myself for reading such crap. X_X;;

OI.

Date: 2008-09-01 09:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sleveen.livejournal.com
He then gets invited to a big scary castle by a commanding and strangely compelling man with piercing eyes

Jeez...where've I heard that before??? *scratches head*

*points to icon*

*falls about laughing* ^_^

Date: 2008-09-01 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mzcalypso.livejournal.com
You don't suppose this book being written by a guy had anything to do with anything, do you? I'm reminded of the old cartoon showing a woman offering an idea in meeting, having it blown off, and 3 panels later a man says the same thing and it's !brilliant! ...

Date: 2008-09-01 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lareinenoire.livejournal.com
::giggles:: I remember picking this up in a charity shop to read on the airplane, and found it utterly cheesy and silly. Will be donating it to a different charity shop soon.

Date: 2008-09-01 11:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] m-barnette.livejournal.com
Anyone remeber the old Robert Ludlam vamp books where one of them turns out to be Jesus or some crap like that? I threw that one across the room and it exploded into a satisfactory shower of pages.

Date: 2008-09-01 11:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] m-barnette.livejournal.com
I have an actual katana if you'd prefer.

Date: 2008-09-01 11:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] m-barnette.livejournal.com
My writing partner, Auburnimp and I have a great beta reader for our original work. She spots 95% of our typos, then the editor gets most of the rest.

Date: 2008-09-02 02:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lee-rowan.livejournal.com
I remember reading a terrific story with Byron in it ... it's still around here somewhere. (sound of digging) Aha! Druid's Blood by Esther M. Friesner. Queen Victoria, magic, Sherlock Holmes, Byron's daughter, a really creative incarnation of Dr Watson, and a slew of nonhuman entities.

Date: 2008-09-02 09:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
nod nod. And I know it's a v really, but it just makes me want to say wamp with a w.

Date: 2008-09-02 09:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
No, I missed that, and I'm blooming glad I did.

Date: 2008-09-02 09:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
exactly, I have three or four "readers" who point out anything I may have goofed on, such as anachronisms!

Date: 2008-09-02 10:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
Polidori is a whining stalker, and Byron vacillates between "OMG I'M A MONSTER" to "whoopee I'm a monster."

Date: 2008-09-02 10:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
What? It's not original? Bah!

:)

Date: 2008-09-02 10:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
Good thought - very possible - a woman writing this would have been labelled as a Anne Rice wanabee, because frankly it's the same bloody book.

Date: 2008-09-02 10:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
Now that sounds a lot more interesting. Apparently Byron was a vampire in Highlander, I've been told!

Date: 2008-09-02 10:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
Best place for it imho!

Date: 2008-09-02 01:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lee-rowan.livejournal.com
No, no vampires in this one. But there were some afreets...

Date: 2008-09-02 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gehayi.livejournal.com
Nah, Byron was just an Immortal. And there was a flashback scene with him and Mary Shelley and Methos together in a really big bed. (Mary was asleep and the boys were talking. In a state of rumpled dress. Gazing at each other. Yeah.)

Date: 2008-09-07 05:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] essayel.livejournal.com
Specialist 'readers' are creatures to be cherished. Sadly, if you get TOO specialised, they are even harder to find, but they do make it a slightly less lonely occupation.

Date: 2008-09-07 05:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] essayel.livejournal.com
Brilliant. And an editor must be a cool thing to have as well.

Date: 2008-09-08 01:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] m-barnette.livejournal.com
Every set of eyes is that many fewer typos, and the way I type, this is a good thing. LOL

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