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Found via Hayden Thorne

50 reasons no-one wants to publish your first book.

I particularly liked:

10. They liked it better when it was called JANE EYRE and didn’t suck.

*giggling*

17. You’re not just being paranoid; there really is a vast corporate conspiracy to ensure that your revolutionary ideas never leave your parents’ basement.

Oh dear, I know people like this.

I could add a few:

51. Sentences like: "my cunt makes a disappointed queeb sound" will only make people buy it in fascinated horror.

52. Having your gay couple get married in church in 1700 is going to make the slush reader snort tea out of their nose.

54. 75 pages of wolf shagging isn't sexy.  Except to a very small slice of the world's population.

55. James Joyce was having them all on. He got away with it. You won't.

Any more?

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Date: 2009-03-16 10:24 am (UTC)
aunty_marion: Vaguely Norse-interlace dragon, with knitting (The one with the power approaches)
From: [personal profile] aunty_marion
11. Iambic pentameter? Really?

It worked for Poul Anderson, in A Midsummer Tempest. Though he didn't write the whole thing in it, and it actually took me quite a while to realise parts of it *were*!

Date: 2009-03-16 10:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-sea-to.livejournal.com
56. No. Your sedentary desk bound banker who eats out every meal and does nothing other than work and sleep will NOT HAVE A SIX PACK AND CHISELED ABS. Deal with it. People are real.

57. Not everyone is gay. PAY ATTENTION TO THIS. SOMETIMES GAY PEOPLE HIT ON STRAIGHT PEOPLE AND GET REBUFFED. AND IT NEVER WORKS OUT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE OF THIS.

58. Not every straight person is accepting and/or homophobic. Some people genuinely don't give a shit.

59. There were times in history homosexuality was seen as normal.

60. There were times in history people would have been burned alive. Or slaughtered. Pay attention to this. It is unlikely that families would be accepting.

61. Anachronisms make the baby jesus cry. (i am a pedant)

Edited Date: 2009-03-16 10:39 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-03-16 10:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] svilleficrecs.livejournal.com
Dude. DUDE. When my vag makes a noise, it should usually be brief and ignored by all involved. Queefs happen. "disappointed queebs" ... Yeah. Except NO.

Date: 2009-03-16 11:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sleveen.livejournal.com
My personal favourite: There’s a fine line between writing authentic regional dialogue and making all of your characters sound like stroke victims.

Which leads me back to my days as a book editor at a small local publishing company. We put out about 10 titles a year - about 6 of those were non-fiction and maybe 4 were fiction. Needless to say, being listed in Writer's Market, we got submissions of ALL kinds.

The one that stands out in my mind is the bloke who felt compelled, for some reason known only to him and his pharmaceutical provider, to write an 800-page "response" to Milton's Paradise Lost - entirely in rhyming couplets.

I declined it politely with the usual form rejection letter. But I was REALLY tempted to write, "Do you own a shredder? Please shred this and stuff it in your mattress. I'll sleep better." o_O

Date: 2009-03-16 11:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mylodon.livejournal.com
Iz ded.

And yes to number 55. Entirely.

Date: 2009-03-16 12:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
Oh dear. Poor poor you!!!

Date: 2009-03-16 12:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
1. HAGRID MUST DIE. Why didn't this happen?

800 pages. *is sporked *

Date: 2009-03-16 12:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
I love the hint of orgy in your reply. A very polite orgy.

Date: 2009-03-16 12:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
61. You had your 15th century sculptor doing gene therapy!!!

:)

Date: 2009-03-16 12:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sleveen.livejournal.com
I personally want to track down the people who write Snape/Hagrid and beat them with nettles...

Date: 2009-03-16 12:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
Nettles? I have a set of 4x4 chunks of wood

WITH NAILS IN.

Date: 2009-03-16 12:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
It's evil of me, I know. But I do believe this.

Date: 2009-03-16 12:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sleveen.livejournal.com
EVEN BETTER.
I keep trying to imagine Hagrid and Snape doing it - and then I have to run screaming through the streets, just to relieve the HORRIBLE PSYCHIC TENSION wrought by that.

Date: 2009-03-16 12:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-sea-to.livejournal.com
well yes. but taken at the end of DRM a colony of TELLYTUBBIES descends on Florence from the Erastes-Colony-Ship from Mars and acclaims Tomasino as their kig because he has eaten San Marco out of all food and now can only be transported around on suspensors as he is too fat to walk....

I don't think gene therapy is that bad, considering :)

Date: 2009-03-16 12:14 pm (UTC)
aunty_marion: Vaguely Norse-interlace dragon, with knitting (Snape - Died a Prince v.2)
From: [personal profile] aunty_marion
I've, um, read some surprisingly good Snagrid. Though I have to say that the 'sex' part of it is generally glossed over, for which I think I am grateful!

Date: 2009-03-16 12:16 pm (UTC)
aunty_marion: (Stonehenge)
From: [personal profile] aunty_marion
Actually, it's an extremely good book ... set during the English Civil War!!! *G* When I realised there was Shakespearean blank verse in there, I boggled, then grinned in glee and re-read to find all the bits I'd missed.

Date: 2009-03-16 12:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sleveen.livejournal.com
I would be grateful for that, myself. :D

Date: 2009-03-16 12:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kethlenda.livejournal.com
LOL, thanks for that link!

I dunno, wolf shagging seems to be the thing at the moment...oh, wait, that's werewolf shagging. ;)

Date: 2009-03-16 12:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
well stop trying to imagine it!!! Actually I have a perfect boyfriend for Hagrid. Don't know if you will have heard of him over there, but it's Desperate Dan.

http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/d/despdan.htm

Date: 2009-03-16 12:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sleveen.livejournal.com
BLOODY HELL!
BEANO!!!
*runs screaming*

Date: 2009-03-16 12:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
I don't mind werewolves shagging as men, but I've read scenes of them transformed into wolves shagging. Gay dogs? Not hot.

Date: 2009-03-16 12:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vashtan.livejournal.com
*snigger*

Date: 2009-03-16 12:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valarltd.livejournal.com
Guilty as charged.
Although the wolf-sex tends to be summed up as "Sniff, mount" because canids don't have higher order thinking.



Date: 2009-03-16 12:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valarltd.livejournal.com
1. Being innovative doesn’t justify writing a Civil War epic entirely in texting slang and emoticons: “ts u hor! i dnt gv dam :< !”

Curse you, Kevin Smith!

29. Everyone who attempts to load a copy of the manuscript onto their Kindle is found dead three hours later.

yeah. Just...yeah.
I can totally understand why.

And there should be more unicorn-based chase scenes (I originally typed sex scenes *headdesk*) But let's NOT have the Mystical Queen of the Unicorn Riders fall in love with Wedge Antilles again, shall we?
(My early Star Wars fanzine collection, let me show you it!)

Date: 2009-03-16 12:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gehayi.livejournal.com
Having your gay couple get married in church in 1700 is going to make the slush reader snort tea out of their nose.

You mean SLASH reader, right?

Re: 55...I have believed for years that Finnegan's Wake was a very long practical joke Joyce played on the critics. Obviously, they haven't figured this out yet.

And let me add a few:

62. Your 100% Viking protagonist of your thoroughly researched historical novel is named Marcus Gabinius Naso.

63. ...and she was named after her father.

64. Your beautiful, multi-talented, magical, completely original heroine who is deeply insecure despite being loved by all and who is destined to save the world is terribly familiar to the editor. And everyone else who knows something about Fanfiction.net.

65. Your vampires don't sparkle.

66. If your wizards are so goddamned powerful and your villains so useless, why don't the wizards use their all-powerful magic to eliminate the villains in Chapter 1?

67. Seriously, is there some reason why the good guys, who have been stymied so far by the villain's invulnerability to magic, don't use a NON-magical method of killing him?

68. All of your female characters women consider a husband and babies to be the summum bonum of life, despite traits and personalities that indicate that, honestly, if they were acting like themselves and not as you the author demand, at least some of them would hate the idea.

69. Your detective who walks with a walker "runs like the wind" when the plot calls for it.
Edited Date: 2009-03-16 12:56 pm (UTC)
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