Save the men from themselves!

[erastes]

Thanks to Chris Smith for this.

Legislate against gay marriage – to save the men from gayness!  They can’t help it, poor loves – if there are no social restrictions – ALL MEN WILL BE GAY!  Vote today!

http://blog.beliefnet.com/kingdomofpriests/2009/06/how-women-will-be-hurt-by-gay-marriage.html

Comments

[lexin.livejournal.com]

My friend jonquil here had an excellent post about that Klinghoffer blog post. Basically, Klinghoffer couldn't have been more wrong about his comments on Roman marriage if he'd tried with both hands for a fortnight.

Oh, and "Gay prostitute scandal in 5... 4... 3..."

[upstart-crow.livejournal.com]

This column is some kind of a joke, right? Please tell me the writer isn't really this stupid and historically ignorant.

(Also, if men want to go boff each other, that's fine by me. Helps lessen our 7 billion and counting population and more girls for me!)

[anderyn.livejournal.com]

I saw this earlier (supergee linked to it). I just love the idea of using a poem by Catullus as any kind of accurate historical reporting. I mean, egads!

[angelabenedetti.livejournal.com]

That's crazed and I had to comment. I love how he cites a satire -- and even labels it satire -- as serious fact, and points to the habits and opinions of the upper class as representative of the population as a whole. What an idiot.

Angie

[beckyblack]

Well the obvious answer is to allow polygamy again. Polygamy wasn't got rid of for the sake of women, but to stop the top men hogging all the women, while some men got no action at all! (And some of those ancient kings had herems so big they had to invent bureaucracy to keep track!) As societies got more egalitarian, men got ticked off about that.

So monogomy doesn't benefit women, as it forces many women to settle for inferior men instead of at least having a share of a better man.

Deal with a shortage of men by bringing back polygamy! I may not be entirely serious.

[semioticwarrior.livejournal.com]

I wonder if the author includes himself among those who Would Go Gay If Only Gay Marriage Were Legal. Oh, I'm sorry, I meant every man except me....

Good grief.

That's on par with the idea that if abortion were free, cheap, and legal, women would choose UNNECESSARY SURGERY as the first defense against unwanted pregnancy.

[erastes.livejournal.com]

I sat there with my chin on the desk.

[erastes.livejournal.com]

i wish it was!

[erastes.livejournal.com]

class, wasn't it?

[erastes.livejournal.com]

Good for you!

[erastes.livejournal.com]

I'm right behind you!

[erastes.livejournal.com]

yes, i think he protests too much!

[aphephobia.livejournal.com]

Because, yeah: every woman wants to marry someone who doesn't have feelings for her. That's not gonna hurt her at all (particularly if she realises down the track that she's essentially been lied to.)

I know gay porn pretty much says that straight boys wil do just about anything for a few bucks and a nice dick, but honestly... slashy goggles aside, I think there are far more heterosexual men out there than these people think. (It's just that a lot of them suck.)

full social sanction for the homoerotic bond is opposed not for God's sake, but for the sake of tomorrow's women.

This writer totally hasn't met any fangirls, has he?

[emeraldsedai.livejournal.com]

I've heard this argument before, that, basically m/m sex is sooooo much hotter than m/f that any man, given the choice to try it out freely would never go back.

Personally, as a woman raised in a society where women are utterly shamed and presented with "role models" that can only be attained for ten minutes in your early twenties, and that with the help of surgery, I have no trouble believing this assertion. I just don't care.

I'm always amazed to meet straight men who seem genuinely down-the-line hetero. It's almost counterintuitive at this point. And why not? There are too many of us. Non-reproductive sex of all kinds is to be lauded.

[sinick.livejournal.com]

FUCK.

I just tried TWICE to post a truly withering rebuttal which pointed out his basic logical fallacy - that if gay marriage is less moral than heterosexual marriage because men are non-monogamous, then by his own argument lesbian marriage is more moral than heterosexual marriage because women are monogamous.

But the fucking website ate my post. TWICE.

So I shall rant here instead.

[norton-gale.livejournal.com]

Hilarious! And I do think it says quite a lot about the author. Apparently hot gay sex is all it's cracked up to be. :D

[kittymay.livejournal.com]

Well it's lucky you're not a bloke, then. Egad, the filth.

I need to scrub myself to remove the taint of homosexuality from my very retinas. Then I am making a bonfire of your books in protest.

[sleveen.livejournal.com]

OH MY GAWD!!! TEH GHEY! IT KILLS!

or, you know, something.
Oy.

[sleveen.livejournal.com]

Non-reproductive sex of all kinds is to be lauded.

WORD. :)

[spindriftdancer.livejournal.com]

Well, that's what he was hoping *we* would believe. Just throwing classical (and therefore unknown to 99% of the population) authors into our faces and hoping we'll just agree...

Is the technical term 'bafflegab' appropriate? Or perhaps, the cruder term: bullshit.

Catullus also wrote about having affairs with married women. So? His point is?

Hmmm. Maybe we should just abolish marriage altogether. That way women won't have to worry about those silly men having affairs either.

Aren't we women lucky that this guy is looking out for us?

[spindriftdancer.livejournal.com]

Oh yes. And I also meant to say... I can't believe my eyeballs aren't bleeding from having read that.

[eternalism.livejournal.com]

If a squint enough, I can almost see a sort of logic happening there, just not quite so exaggerated as that guy thinks. If there wasn't a social stigma against homosexuality, maybe more people would give gay sex a try at some point in their lives, just to see what it's like. However, that doesn't take away the fact that everyone has an individual preference. One, the other, both, neither, most people who understand their sexuality have made a choice, and they choose what they like best. Having gay marriage be legal won't change that. It may, in time, increase the number of homosexuals just because the social stigma to give it a try won't be as strong, but seriously, trying to insist that everyone in the future will be a promiscuous bisexual is just stupid.

As for why homosexual women will be left in the dust even if gay relationships are the norm? Well, it's long been a man's world, after all...