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Finished the first edits for Tributary. Relatively painless--and as editing always is with with a good editor, illuminating and educating too. I will certainly search and destroy “was” and “that” with impunity from now on – I know “that” is one of my bugbears. (It’s an example of the problem, when I’d normally say “I know that “that” is one of my bugbears.”) Who knew you could remove “that” 99 percent of the time and it made no difference to the sentence?  OK – YOU lot knew, obviously, but I didn’t. I suppose I should read more books on “how to write.”…

There were one or two “that”s that I asked to keep in – all of them in dialogue because people aren’t grammatically correct when they speak, and they use was and that all the time.

But I hate editing, I really really hate it. It gives me no pleasure at all, which is why I do it immediately and get it out of the way. When you are in the unenviable position of editing something myriad times (I think Transgressions was edited four times in all, all 120k words of it) I was so sick of it I could have screamed.

Remember the illustrator I told you about who is going to work on a graphic novel of Standish with a view to sell? Well she’s done a mock up of a cover for Mere Mortals (very much a draft as obviously it would be up to Lethe as to whether they go with a cover they didn’t comission, and I won’t joggle Steve’s elbow until after Saints and Sinners) and it’s so bloody brilliant – I hope to god he does. It’s a concept that i would never have thought of in a million years—I was thinking much more literally with boats and islands and castles—but the concept she’s come up with – And this is her site by the way, very talented – is perfect, and most importantly it’s INTRIGUING.  Not only is the cover entirely work safe, but I’d hope someone would pick it up on the strength of the cover – and it’s not until you’ve READ the book would you appreciate what the cover actually means. I can’t show it yet, but I will, the minute I can. It doesn’t scream gay romance, because it isn’t, or I like to think it isn’t. It’s a gothic story where men are homosexual I suppose.

I’ve been watching the first series of Fringe, and am now just starting on series two, and I really like it. At first I felt sorry for the actor playing Peter, because the Dunham character upstaged him over and over, and he was there just to add one-liners, or to have father issues – but as the story went on he has a part to play which I like. I really like Dunham, she’s beautifully kick arse without being sue-ish, makes stupid mistakes etc.  Very enjoyable, but of course it is bound to be one of those shows – like Kyle xy – that is axed with every thing left up in the air.

Date: 2010-04-30 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schmoo999.livejournal.com
Fox has already renewed Fringe for a 3rd Season. J.J. Abrams always seems to get his series wrapped up, Felicity, Alias, Lost and now Fringe is still trucking along.

I need to sit down at my computer and catch up on it at some point. :)

Date: 2010-04-30 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
OOO! Hurrah! *i has a happy* Thank you for letting meknow.

Date: 2010-04-30 06:12 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-04-30 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
To what? I can't show the cover yet. But will email if you want to see it.

Date: 2010-04-30 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
oops - yes, link

http://www.oneredshoe.co.uk/home.html

silly me! thanks!

Date: 2010-04-30 07:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iulia_linnea.livejournal.com
The graphic novel of Standish sounds like a fabulous idea!

Date: 2010-04-30 07:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
thank you! I hope it comes to fruition. We have the permission to do it from PD - but they dont publish them, so we'll have to find a publisher, so it may not come to anything, but I shall try my damnedest.

Date: 2010-04-30 10:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lee-rowan.livejournal.com
I think the use of 'that' is a matter of style and it is the way a lot of people speak. And I don't think it really improves a sentence that works well to remove 'that' as a matter of editorial policy... but then, I split infinitives, too. Deliberately.

Date: 2010-05-01 09:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiggothy.livejournal.com
I didn't know about "was" and "that" being EV0L, so you ain't alone. I think things vary even within countries - and of course they change over time as well. Not to mention we're all, in one way or another, influenced by the way we (and others around us) speak. I know I have a tendency (when explaining something in speech) to use the phrase "What it is, is..." which (I learned when I was 17 or 18) marks me out as someone who grew up near Wrexham!

Date: 2010-05-01 10:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
heh yes, I've been known to includ "that that" in a sentence at times.

Date: 2010-05-01 10:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
"that is the the that that I should not have used" *snort*

Date: 2010-05-01 10:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
Heh me too. some of my word choices make editors tear their hair out. "but why did his mood feel like fog?"

Date: 2010-05-01 06:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lee-rowan.livejournal.com
I think the problem is - seriously - that there are too many "editors" who think in cliches. Awhile back I had one tell me to change a fire 'dying back' to 'dying down.' Fact is, they can do both or either, and I was trying to avoid a cliche. There are some publishers whose editing is so bad I would never submit to them.. and I only buy books from them if I know the authors have a decent command of grammar.

That said, I've also dealt with editors who think proofreading a manuscript constitutes "editing," and in a lot of ways that's far worse.

A good editor's worth her weight in chocolate. A bad one is worse than none at all.

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