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[erastes]

I've just finished reading The Watchmen - and now at least the trailer makes a lot more sense.  Interesting book, i suppose a lot of the hype is due to the themes it covers? sex, nudity, ultra violence, blood - etc etc?  Or what?  I admit that I didn't "get" large parts of it - what was the confusing dual storyline about the Black Freighter supposed to be about?  Didn't get that at all, so if there's anyone who knows and understands the book, please elucidate!!  *iz dim*  Favourite character?  Dunno. None. Thought they were all a load of really unpleasant types!!

I've started the new book.  Or at least, *chortles* I've created the title page, which is a step in the right direction. The first paragraph isn't coming to me though, need to do a bit more brain percolating.

Need to go to bed. Dreadfully early but I feel like crap.

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[schmoo999.livejournal.com]

Well one of the big deals about the Watchmen is that it was the first "adult" comic to really hit the comic bookstores. It came out in the time it was set, in the mid 80s.

Also it shows that the world may not big such a nice place if we had superheroes and that they are just as flawed as the rest of us and can make things worse even if they are only trying to make things better. It is all a big ball of grey and not black and white like Rorschach sees it. Of course at its basic it is a murder mystery of who killed the Comedian. :D

The horror pirate comic storyline is not going to be in the movie but I did read that an animated version of the story is going to be released on DVD around the same time as the movie.

I can't wait for the movie, simply looking at how the took Dave Gibbons' vision and made it come alive has me squeeing.

[seraphim-grace.livejournal.com]

it's to do with timing, it really was the FIRST, literally
Dave Gibbons did the art and he hasn't done anything like it since, and Alan Moore - well he wrote everything,
if watchman hadn't come out we wouldn't have 300, from hell, wanted, the league of extraordinary gentlemen, 40 days of night, sin city,
those writers moved to DC primarily and started work on Batman, then on Daredevil for Marvel, so without Watchmen we never would have had Batman begins because Frank Miller was the one to suggest Batman was a sociopath inspired by Watchmen.
it was a novel written as a comic, the very first one, but also looked at the concept of superheroes and presented them for the first time as flawed, human beings who made mistakes, even Dr Manhattan who is utterly godlike can't keep a girlfriend, and the only person who cares is Rorscharch who is a villain by any other name, and frowned upon by the others, but looks just like the Clue by DC.
The meta story of the black freighter, you'll get it eventually, I don't want to spoil it for you
but it's the comic equivalent of the garden of eden, it doesn't matter that it has flaws because of what it inspired.

[vashtan.livejournal.com]

I found the Wikipedia article helped with understanding Watchmen. :)

[alex-beecroft.livejournal.com]

I've made icons so I can post about my new projects, so I know the feeling ;)

[ggymeta.wordpress.com (from livejournal.com)]

I never got into the Watchmen. :/ Weird, because I like darker superhero style comics.

BTW - sorry I haven't been sociable - I've been bombarded with work. >_

heads-up

[cara-chapel.livejournal.com]

Your egg has softshell because it got too many views too fast; you should fog it for 24 hours!

--Fellow dragon lover

;-)

Re: heads-up

[erastes.livejournal.com]

eek! 308 views? I don't even have that many friends!!!

How do I fog it?

[erastes.livejournal.com]

No worries hun! I should be, but having trouble getting started.

Re: heads-up

[erastes.livejournal.com]

It's ok, done it!

[erastes.livejournal.com]

Shows you how long it takes me to catch up! Comics just aren't a part of our national consciousness - but I guess that the younger generation might be more attuned to them. I get that it was the first and therefore caused a stir, though. I suppose I'm less impressed as we have had sexual and violent comics here since 1979 with VIZ, the whole superhero thing being less English. I mean who would we have? Tweedman? Cuppateawoman? Giles is already Tweedman, I suppose!

The trailer does look great,I have to admit - even Archie looks wonderful.

[erastes.livejournal.com]

And we'd never have had the Authority, more importantly!

:)

I don't suppose I'll read it again (it's a library book) so I'll just have to let the whole pirate story wash over my dim head!

[erastes.livejournal.com]

Ah - good idea! Why didn't I think of that? Thanks!

[erastes.livejournal.com]

I've found a wonderful expert who is gagging to help me with research (he was a rock lighthouse keeper for 25(!) years - which will help me enormously.

Re: heads-up

[cara-chapel.livejournal.com]

Log into your scroll, choose actions, and click "Hide."

Usually if you hide it about 24 hours, it will still show that it's softshelled, but if you unhide it then and give it a few minutes/clicks, it'll recover.

They're usually only vulnerable to catch this for about the first day of their egg/hatchling stages. I avoid it by not posting mine for a day.

[alex-beecroft.livejournal.com]

Ooh, is this your follow-up to 'Transgressions'?

[erastes.livejournal.com]

Nod nod. haven't actually started yes, but I have a basic idea...

[vashtan.livejournal.com]

Welcome. It is a masterpiece. :)

[seraphim-grace.livejournal.com]

it's actually really simple, all metafiction is a reflection of the story it's in, be that the plays within a play in shakespeare or a comic within a comic

the man hears of the coming of the black freighter and destroys everything to get off the island to tell his wife, he crosses paths with a night guard, killing him to discover it is his wife and the ship was coming for him alone

it's like the terry pratchett joke about the man who fled to pseudopolis because in Ankh Morpork he had seen Death looking at him funny, Death was doing that because he had an appointment with him the next day in pseudopolis

by doing his damnednest to "save" everyone from the black freighter he not only destroyed them but damned himself
just like Ozymandias does, he thinks that by creating his atomic alien he can unite the people but so many people die and he's one of them.

I've never read the authority, I'm working my way through Cable and Deadpool at the moment, but only because Deadpool is hilarious

[seraphim-grace.livejournal.com]

We have constantine and sandman and Judge Dredd
they pretty much put the americans to shame

the sandman books are fabulous but a lot harder to get hold of

[erastes.livejournal.com]

Yes - that's true - I loved sandman - again, got them from my library.

[seraphim-grace.livejournal.com]

the closest our library got to comic books was asterix the gaul
but the fantasy section was amazing, because i was under sixteen and ordered thme all for free and was going through them at such a rate they started just getting them in for me
every saturday morning without fail, bring back 8 books i read, get new 8 books.