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And silence the Christians. (gacked from valarltd)

http://www.silencingchristians.com/
Pause the video. Believe ME you really don't want to watch it. It's vile.

Go and tell them what you think on their survey - do homosexuals deserve: "special rights just like African Americans and other minorities!"?

I have to say, that in line with fairness, I don't believe that courts should be forced to elect judges who are more sympathetic to gays, and that employers should be FORCED to employ gays - so I said no to those, but I disagree that they should be discriminating against employing a person because he is gay which is a different matter entirely--ain't it great how concepts can be skewed. not.

When I was at Steeles a questionnaire came around asking us for our sexual orientation - because they were supposed to show that they were employing "a certain number of homosexuals" or something like that - and I told them to mind their own bloody business.

Date: 2009-02-12 10:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-sea-to.livejournal.com
WHAT? SERIOUSLY? THEY ASKED?

OMG. JUST. NO.

I WOULD HAVE WRITTEN FRUITARIAN. AND THEN LET THEM PUZZLE THAT OUT.

Date: 2009-02-12 10:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
i hate to use the term Political correctness gone mad. but....

Political correctness gone mad!!

Date: 2009-02-12 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lee-rowan.livejournal.com
What they should've done was have a way of checking this anonymously. It makes sense, in a way, for a company to be able to affirm that they are employing minorities--but asking about people's sexual orientation...!! That's only relevant if you mean to ask someone out on a date.

Date: 2009-02-12 11:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rwday.livejournal.com
That language is really irritating, and it makes it hard for me to honestly answer that survey, because I don't believe homosexuals deserve special rights, just the same rights that the rest of us have.

Morons.

Date: 2009-02-12 11:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
They should be jailed for the wording of that. They'd be in trouble if they did that over here. Grrrr.

Date: 2009-02-12 03:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lee-rowan.livejournal.com
That's the whole thrust of their argument -- that equal rights are "special" rights.

@ssholes.

Date: 2009-02-12 11:28 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] alex-beecroft.livejournal.com
The special right to be treated like white straight people? No, we couldn't possibly give that to anyone except white straight people.

I watched half of the video and was amused by the fact that I supported the dreaded 'gay agenda' even when summarized by this particularly biased source. Gays in the military? Oh the horrors!

Is it wrong to say at this point how glad I am to be British?

Date: 2009-02-12 11:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
I know - I think I'd be a right bloody activist if I lived in the USA.

"Erastes: Like Phelps, but completely opposite."

Date: 2009-02-12 12:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sleveen.livejournal.com
Is it wrong to say at this point how glad I am to be British?

Only about as wrong as it would be for me to be glad I'm Canadian. ^___^

Date: 2009-02-12 12:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sleveen.livejournal.com
Sweet Merciful Cthulhu.
These people are fucking nuts.

Date: 2009-02-12 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sleveen.livejournal.com
Fundies scare the HELL out of me. And I was raised by them... o_O

Date: 2009-02-12 03:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lee-rowan.livejournal.com
I had a Church Lady mother myself, which is why I am not optimistic about reasoning with the really crazy fundies. They are not open to reason. Dad was more practical, and not blind to the hypocrisy.

Date: 2009-02-12 03:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sleveen.livejournal.com
Both my parents are fundies. And my sister ran away with an Internet 'evangelist' who is, IMHO, certifiable.

I found it helpful to purge it in a work of novel-length fiction, which I then published. :-D

Date: 2009-02-12 03:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lee-rowan.livejournal.com
Your sister's situation sounds like Joan Osborne's "Man in the Long Black Coat." I'm glad you escaped, anyway.

Date: 2009-02-12 03:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sleveen.livejournal.com
It's nasty. He has my sister brainwashed. She and my parents and him - I call him Thing-in-Law. He's just...vile.

Yes, it took 20+ years for me to escape and a week ago I had to sever contact with my parents (yet again) because my father started in with the Scriptures and the End Times thing - again. (The same scripture he used to justify his and my mother's horrendous physical and emotional abuse of me and my sister when we were kids.)

Ugh. Fundies.

Date: 2009-02-12 03:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lee-rowan.livejournal.com
Anybody can make their own "End Times." Look at David Koresh -- his world did end in fire.

What worries me most is the fundies in the military.

Date: 2009-02-12 03:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sleveen.livejournal.com
Oh Lord, fundies in the military...yes...with access to heavy ordnance... *shudder*

Date: 2009-02-12 01:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kittymay.livejournal.com
Whaddya mean, that vid was great! I now know how to 'cure' my homosexuality with the help of Jaysus *relief*

BTW that chick in the cerise jacket pings my gaydar.

Date: 2009-02-12 03:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lee-rowan.livejournal.com
It's the most hyper homophobes who are usually fighting their own urges.

Date: 2009-02-12 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kittymay.livejournal.com
I could just see that glint in her eye, you know? Inside, bubbling under the surface like an abominable Satantic gay rainbow-coloured lava, all she really wants is to fling off her cerise jacket and ravish the anti-homo group tea lady.

Date: 2009-02-12 07:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lee-rowan.livejournal.com
LOL! Here's hoping!

Date: 2009-02-12 01:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crawling-angel.livejournal.com
On my job application for staff nurse it asked too. Unfortunately, there wasn't a box to tick for 'bog off' so I had to tick prefer not to answer. Shaun, who is gay, was livid about it (We were on our management together on my ward as he wasn't officially 'out' then...(but we weren't that blind)...but HOW DARE THEY!!!!???

Date: 2009-02-12 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
"bog off" *giggles*

I know - it's appalling! I know that it's meant in a good way, but it's too far in the wrong direction!!!

Date: 2009-02-12 03:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lee-rowan.livejournal.com
This is the reaction to the reaction to Proposition Hate. These bastards never expected that their names would be exposed and their corporations would be boycotted.

I'm on the HRC mailing list, and something wonderful happened yesterday. Around noontime, HRC sent out an action call to email a TV station that had agreed to air this hour-long hate screech.

I was offline for a few hours. When I saw that email -- around 5 pm -- and clicked on the link to take action, the campaign had already been closed because the TV station had said they didn't want to be in the middle of someone else's fight and decided not to give the haters a site.

This BS will probably be mass-distributed the same way a similar one (purporting to link Barack Obama to al-quaeda) was sent around at election time. These SOBs have the money to pull all kinds of crap.

The purpose this time is probably to incite the usual screech monkeys to make a big fuss in California over the court battle against Prop Hate.

By all means, let's spam their survey -- but the last time this gang did something similar and the results weren't what they wanted, they simply took it down.

Which is a victory of sorts...

Thanks for the post!

Date: 2009-02-12 03:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sleveen.livejournal.com
ICON LOVE!!!!
::snuzzles the goggy:: ^___^

Date: 2009-02-12 03:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lee-rowan.livejournal.com
Thanks. She's got a lot more grey in her muzzle now, and her face is all saggy--she's 16 1/2, really ancient for a Shepherd mix.

Date: 2009-02-12 03:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sleveen.livejournal.com
She is absolutely beautiful! I have 2 - a Chihuahua mix and a black Lab/beagle/tank mix. :)

Date: 2009-02-12 05:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
I think we should have a "authors' dogs post. I'll have to put a call out for piccies. A post was done about cats a while back.

Date: 2009-02-12 05:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sleveen.livejournal.com
Oooh, don't tempt me! I am one of those annoying dog mommies who has pix of her babies on her cellphone and whatnot. :-)

I love kitties, too. All animals, really, unless they are actively engaged in trying to eat me. :)

(Trufax: polar bears sometimes come down on the ice floes in the early spring - the reason why we DON'T walk on the beaches in March and April!)

Date: 2009-02-12 05:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catsintheattic.livejournal.com
This is vile indeed. It's right down insane.

Date: 2009-02-12 05:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
It would be hilarious if we could get millions of gay/gay supportive people to fill in the survey.

Date: 2009-02-12 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mzcalypso.livejournal.com
They would just pull it and whine about sabotage. They always do.

Date: 2009-02-12 07:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
*laughs* yes, like that Romantic Times poll, remember? Where they asked people liked m/m and then complained because all the m/m lovers came over and SPOILED their nice poll.

Date: 2009-02-12 08:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valarltd.livejournal.com
Sad to say, people like this are the majority in the US.

Every state that has offered a "Marriage Protection Amendment" has passed it with 70% or better of the population voting for it, with one exception. (and when they reworded it so unmarried straights could keep their rights, it went through) Mississippi passed one with 89%.

And they wonder why gays flee Christianity like it's a house afire.

Date: 2009-02-12 11:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catsintheattic.livejournal.com
It is sad indeed. The USA, like I see it from an outer perspective, is such a rich country, so full of diversity and opportunities. They should be full of courage and able to embrace the variety instead of striking out in fear and acting like they were still living in the middle ages.

Date: 2009-02-14 10:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hybridartifacts.livejournal.com
I have a big problem with their take on things, and it's not just the obvious one. I object to the way they blanket assume that they speak for 'Christians'. What's worse, is that I suspect that from experience they would feel that anyone who does not agree with them and their theology could not be a Christian, and this why they think they can speak for 'Christians'.

Well, I am a Christian, and I disagree with them. I think they have failed to understand the Gospel, have a limited concept of what it is and its relevance and function, that they have a narrow and unthinking approach to the Bible and that they are focusing on an issue that hardly even gets a mention in the Bible to the exclusion of pressing ones that do.

I really hate the way that these people make it hard for me to speak about my beliefs because I get lumped in with them even though I have almost nothing in common with them apart from a label and a book.

I agree about the political correctness issue sometimes going too far - I'm all for free speech, and perhaps more importantly free discussion. That does cut both ways. I think the most sane thing in your post is the comment 'mind their own bloody business' - that applies to both the extremes of political correctness. I hate those bits on surveys - the religion bit annoys me because people think they know what I believe if I tick 'Christian' and lump me in with the fundamentalists when I probably have more in common spiritually with a Zen Buddhist than with them (and that makes more a Christian in my own understanding, not less). The race bit annoys me because like I am, like everyone else in the UK, actually a mongrel with a mix of heritage and the colour of my skin means very little. The sexual orientation bit annoys me because I am open minded and don't want to label myself as one thing sexually just because I have never explored another.

In short- it all annoys me. 'Silencing Christians' annoys me. Political correctness annoys me. The insidious power and effect of simplistic labels annoys me.

Gah!

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