I don't know much about post Roman "England" (as it wasn't yet called England) at all, but this book certainly did enough to convince me that the author knew what they were doing.
Ronan is a son of an artisan in a village in what is now Yorkshire and he goes to the cheif's town (Deventio) to help train a horse. There he persuades the chief to train him as a warrior and falls into a brief relationship with a beautiful cripple boy, whilst at the same time having a UST relationship with the chief's son, Bryn.
Then the Angles come, warlike and ravaging, from the East and Deventio is destroyed. This is where the story begins, really.
It's a good adventure story, with action, romance and some nice sexy scenes. there are a few negative reviews on Amazon but I didn't really find the problems they talked about. The characters did seem to get together a little too easily but they were both sexually active and there weren't any taboos about m/m sex in their world. (How accurate that is, I couldn't tell, and I doubt that there's any historical evidence to say one way or the other, but the main characters are pre-christian and I would imagine that the Christian prudity only came in later)
There are rather a lot of m/m relationships actually, and it does lean towards OKHomo - "Everyone's Gay and Everyone's Fine About It" but I let that slide and concentrated on the story. After all, how do I know what the attitude to homosexuality was in the Dark Ages? Keegan bases it on a warrior culture, along the lines of the Sacred Band, and it's believable enough.
All in all, pretty enjoyable. Not an earth shattering read, it won't grab your heart and break it, there's no real conflict and conflict resolution (relating the characters, at least) but it's a decent enough page turner. It almost struck me as a prequel and I would have liked to have seen what happened next.
The editing, though, was appalling, far too many mistakes in the text to forgive and not the quality I would have expected from a professional publisher (the now defunct Gay Mens Press) and the cover is just giggleworthy. There is also a lot of repetition which seemed to be there just for filling and some of it is contradictory to earlier canon.
The other snag is that Mel Keegan's books are being withdrawn and will soon only be available on his website. You can pick up this book on Amazon at the moment, but you can't get all of them there, and some of them are outrageous prices.
I don't know if I'd be tempted to read another MK book, though, it was good but not good enough to tempt me to rush out and buy all the others.
Ronan is a son of an artisan in a village in what is now Yorkshire and he goes to the cheif's town (Deventio) to help train a horse. There he persuades the chief to train him as a warrior and falls into a brief relationship with a beautiful cripple boy, whilst at the same time having a UST relationship with the chief's son, Bryn.
Then the Angles come, warlike and ravaging, from the East and Deventio is destroyed. This is where the story begins, really.
It's a good adventure story, with action, romance and some nice sexy scenes. there are a few negative reviews on Amazon but I didn't really find the problems they talked about. The characters did seem to get together a little too easily but they were both sexually active and there weren't any taboos about m/m sex in their world. (How accurate that is, I couldn't tell, and I doubt that there's any historical evidence to say one way or the other, but the main characters are pre-christian and I would imagine that the Christian prudity only came in later)
There are rather a lot of m/m relationships actually, and it does lean towards OKHomo - "Everyone's Gay and Everyone's Fine About It" but I let that slide and concentrated on the story. After all, how do I know what the attitude to homosexuality was in the Dark Ages? Keegan bases it on a warrior culture, along the lines of the Sacred Band, and it's believable enough.
All in all, pretty enjoyable. Not an earth shattering read, it won't grab your heart and break it, there's no real conflict and conflict resolution (relating the characters, at least) but it's a decent enough page turner. It almost struck me as a prequel and I would have liked to have seen what happened next.
The editing, though, was appalling, far too many mistakes in the text to forgive and not the quality I would have expected from a professional publisher (the now defunct Gay Mens Press) and the cover is just giggleworthy. There is also a lot of repetition which seemed to be there just for filling and some of it is contradictory to earlier canon.
The other snag is that Mel Keegan's books are being withdrawn and will soon only be available on his website. You can pick up this book on Amazon at the moment, but you can't get all of them there, and some of them are outrageous prices.
I don't know if I'd be tempted to read another MK book, though, it was good but not good enough to tempt me to rush out and buy all the others.
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Date: 2007-08-13 09:01 pm (UTC)I once heard a conference paper on this topic, you see, with specific examples from both the fics and the novels. It was most interesting. ;)
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Date: 2007-08-14 07:43 pm (UTC)Falls over laughing!
Not Keegan's best
Date: 2007-08-14 12:44 am (UTC)Re: Not Keegan's best
Date: 2007-08-14 07:46 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-08-14 01:03 am (UTC)On the whole and generally speaking, of course. Persecution usually occurred during times of stress, like during wartime, epidemics, bad weather, during the Depression after losing WWI (people are people everywhere). Communities of Jews flourished for generations at a time, many lepers probably led entirely uneventful lives (their disease aside), and I'm sure that communities of people who preferred their own sex flourished, too, though more quietly and with much less impact on the written record. Being wealthy always helped ...
In the pre-Christian Mediterranean, no one cared about what sex you preferred to have sex with, but they did care who was on top. This carried over into the early Middle Ages, but got complicated by something called 'buggery' which started out by meaning deviant/non-procreative and not-within-marriage sexual activity, and eventually after a long time came to the specific act of anal sex (usually between men? if only bc people lack imagination).
So, in conclusion, it's not utterly unrealistic to imagine a bunch of gay proto-English non-Christian warriors during that funny period between the ancient world and the medieval world, aside from the simple statistical fact that men who prefer their own sex are never the majority, and that heirs were often considered desirable.
Oookay, that was longer than I thought it would be. But look how much I learned in my "Early Middle Ages" and "The 'Other' Side of the Middle Ages"* classes!
*That was the class in which I said 'fist fuck' while giving a presentation; everyone laughed; the professor went red-faced and suggested that maybe I might have used some other term; and I ... wondered what the big deal was, heh.
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Date: 2007-08-14 08:04 pm (UTC)Thanks! I love my flist!!
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Date: 2007-08-14 11:37 pm (UTC)You've even got pedantic undergrads; what else could you possibly want?
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Date: 2007-08-15 06:38 am (UTC)No, Ronan was a peasant, son of an artisan and Bryn was the son of the local chieftan, and heir. But both of their villages were wiped out so he had nothing to inherit.
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Date: 2007-08-15 06:57 am (UTC)And they SWITCHED?! zomg the deviancy. There should be laws against that sort of thing. Seme/uke purity, *please*.
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Date: 2007-08-14 01:37 am (UTC)Interestingly, men who practiced sorcery may have been linked with homosexuality, at least in terms of attitude. Most 'practicing' sorcerers were female, so any man who went in for that sort of thing opened himself up to accusations of homosexuality.
(source is Neil Price's "The Viking Way," btw)
Bad editing can really ruin a book, I think.
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Date: 2007-08-14 08:15 pm (UTC)Got to love my flist though.
*G*
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Date: 2007-08-14 07:03 am (UTC)MK is my favourite author but I started with Fortunes of War and I am a HUGE action adventure fiend and that is really what MK does. Good old swashbuckling adventures in the past present or future with sizzling gay men thrown in for the ride.
I personally love The Decivers and Dangerous Moonlight best, I also adore Fortunes of War (which so far was my favourite pirate romp until raised By Wolves showed up) and White rose of Night which echoed alot of my sentiments about the Caracen (I grew up seeing the Crusaders as EVIL and Saladin as an inspired hero... I wanted to marry him!) In these days seeing something that shows the beauty of Islam - especially at that time is quite refreshing.
I adore MK sci fi but that is really for people who love nuts and bolts and have a hardware fetish (guilty as charged) if you don't like people discussing riot armour and inter-planetary engins of big hulking ship then... maybe avoid XD
As for the claim some of the novels started as fanfic... I heard that too... from the horse's mouth... so what? (the Sci Fi Narc series was originally set in some DC comics universe and I am soooo glad it was plucked out of it and put into print ^_^) THat could probably explain why some of them are so earnest and gripping. I know MK is far from being the only one to modify fanfic - it is a GOOD way to do so... don't listen to robbin Hob when she so publically make a fool out of herself and claim it is wrong XD.
My only annoyance is this silly insistance that POD cannot be sold on Amazon which the author keeps insisting on his/her site... nonsense... so many are and I would like them to be highly accesible... although I like all my books signed to me personally - shiny :D:D:D
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Date: 2007-08-14 07:51 pm (UTC)If you are an action/armour fiend - have you read George R R Martin? He blows Keegan out of the water.
Oh - and yes, that's nonsense about POD - Standish is POD and is selling very well, thank you very much!!!!