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So... in spite of Rowling not actually mentioning God once through the entire saga, and people writing articles such as "who dies in Harry Potter? God." It now seems that (as suspected) Harry IS in fact Aslan or Jesus or reincarnated deity of your choice.

I CAN HAS CYNICISM, I think. I was rather under the impression that Harry needed LURVE, not God for his own salvation (or that's the message being banged home constantly throughout the series) (and of course never having any religious thoughts, going near a church, or knowing anyone who DID)

But this sudden volte-face wouldn't have anything to do with an upcoming American Tour, would it?

Of course not. Cynical Erastes. *SMACK*

Date: 2007-10-18 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] copperbeech.livejournal.com
Priceless, isn't it? Yet another thing Christians have usurped and tacked their brand onto.

Date: 2007-10-18 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
oops - wrong reply!

What a pillock that woman is. Check out Gehayi's post of "times JKR insisted there was no religious theme ...."

Date: 2007-10-18 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eternalism.livejournal.com
O_o Please tell me this is some media trash and not an actual statement released by Rowling. Please please please.

Date: 2007-10-18 03:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mylodon.livejournal.com
Won't hide the fact that I'm a Christian; will add that I'm one who hates hypocrisy

Have to say you can has all the cynicism you wants honey, cos I is having the same. (Links to another problem I have in re HP. Plenty of people in the church say 'Don't let your kids dress up for Halloween - witchcraft is bad'; same folk praise Harry Potter to the utmost and I'm left thinking 'did I miss a whole agenda item here?')

Date: 2007-10-18 03:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lunalelle.livejournal.com
Well, it that case, it's a matter of degree. And interpretation. And no one on either side really sees that. They just see, "I'm right and they're wrong" without really bothering to think about the reasons for both.

Date: 2007-10-18 03:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mylodon.livejournal.com
Do you suspect that's because it's harder/less comfortable to try to assess things fully rather than just take an intransigent right/wrong position?

I may get things wrong but I do try and think them through. (Try being the operative word.)

Date: 2007-10-18 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lunalelle.livejournal.com
I think that when you begin to assess these assumptions critically, moral relativism comes into play, and that's very unpopular with hard-liners precisely because it's so, as you said, uncomfortable (i.e. If someone else could be right, what does that make me even though I'm positive I'm right?)

Date: 2007-10-18 07:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mylodon.livejournal.com
A very wise bloke (can't remember the name but he was a priest) was talking on the radio and said 'I have found that faith prepares me far better for the unknown than certainty. My certainties have changed far more than my faith'.

I think the people who have really got it right go along those lines and are prepared to continually re-assess where they are.

Date: 2007-10-18 07:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mylodon.livejournal.com
Note to Erastes: we're in ur jurnal, talkin ur philospheeeeeeeee.

Date: 2007-10-18 07:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cbpotts.livejournal.com
Now we just need a cat macro...

Date: 2007-10-18 07:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mylodon.livejournal.com
It was Erastes' fault that I got addicted to cat macros in the first place...

Date: 2007-10-18 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
*chokes with laughter *

Date: 2007-10-18 08:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
Exactly. Take from the religion what you want and just be cozy with it.

*headdesk*

Date: 2007-10-18 07:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crawling-angel.livejournal.com
Not having read any of the saga...I had hoped it would be Harry who kicked the bucket, lol. I guess the geek who played him just did my head in too much for me to even pick up a book of hers.

Date: 2007-10-18 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
Me too, believe me. I hoped and hoped and hoped. I feel duped.

Date: 2007-10-19 08:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crawling-angel.livejournal.com
I must have hoped with you!

Date: 2007-10-18 07:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lyras.livejournal.com
I have to say, the overt Christian imagery in the last book (well, okay, Harry dying to save mankind) offends my cynicism more than her suddenly admitting to it. *waves atheist flag*

Date: 2007-10-18 08:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
I agree. I feel cheated. LIke I'd been reading Standish and then Ambrose skipped off with a WOMAN!

*has to go and lie down*

Date: 2007-10-19 01:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smurasaki.livejournal.com
Agnostic here. But I think if I were Christian, I'd be offended by her trying to compare her incoherent resurrection of Harry to the resurrection of Christ, which, frankly, makes a lot more sense.

But this sudden "Oh, oh, I haz Christianity!" further proves that Rowling has no freaking idea what she's doing from day to day.

Date: 2007-10-19 12:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ejab62.livejournal.com
OMG. At first I thought you were making a joke. Until I read that article.
(And remembered why I refuse to read articles/interviews about/with her)

She's a lost case. Really.

Date: 2007-10-19 01:32 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] joyful-molly.livejournal.com
You can has.

This is embarrassing, and I'll add it to the long list of reasons why I don't regret never having made it past book three of the Harry Potter series.

But this sudden volte-face wouldn't have anything to do with an upcoming American Tour, would it?

"(...) "To me, [the religious parallels have] always been obvious,” Rowling said. “But I never wanted to talk too openly about it until now when it could be helpful to improve sales because I I pulled that one out of the hat, anyway thought it might show people who just wanted the story where we were going." (...)"

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