Another group of random things

[erastes]

1.  I have a copy of the Authority, Relentless. Squeeful. I also have mango/orange juice. *to die for*

For a non-comic reader (not really since I was about 10, anyway, and that was The Beano, the The Dandy and Bunty) it takes concentration to read these "new fangled" graphic novels.  They don't flow easily to my eye and they are so detailed and so amazingly drawn that you have to sit and study even the pictures with no words because they say so much.  But wonderful, all the same. Am very much looking forward to getting to grips with the characters. I'd really love the entire set, but sheesh - the PRICE. Not until I'm richer, I think.

2.  Does anyone have any resources for Elizabethan dialogue?  Not in plays but in everyday life? Letters, diaries, that sort of thing? No, I'm not planning to write something with ye authentic dialogge, as that would be rather funny.  There's THIS, but GUH, look at the price of the bloody thing, and no, my stupid library doesn't have it, not even in Norwich.

3.  No, that's not what I'm doing next, though - I've decided on that and I love it.  Can't say much yet. But if you know Black Narcissus and The Thing... mix those together, make it gay - you won't be far off. Bwahahaha!  *looks shifty as a certain Irishman looks daggers at me*  Sorry Fleury... the research is a bit daunting for me, right at the moment....

4. EPIC has delivered a statement about last year's EPPIES - specifically Lucinda Logan's "A Hidden Passion" which is... open to a little interpretation, if you don't mind me saying.

They say "After the first round of judging, the works of the finalists are sent to another panel of judges, and winners in all eighteen categories are selected."

Then go on to say: "During the judging is where any questionable book is reported and reviewed by the committee to identify any problems and disqualify any book involving plagiarism, which is what happened in this particular case."

If the problems with the book were reported and the book was disqualified, I can't work out how the book ended up in the FINALS of the GLBT category. I know that I emailed them on 14th December and the book was withdrawn later that day!

Comments

[lareinenoire.livejournal.com]

Here are a few that I've found on the fly. My research area focuses more on women, so there's a definite gender slant, but at least it's something, I hope. I've linked to Amazon pages, but libraries might have them.

The Diaries of Lady Margaret Hoby

Elizabeth I: Collected Works

Letters of Sir Walter Ralegh

There is the journal of Sir Francis Walsingham as well, though it's a nineteenth-century edition and difficult to find.

[erastes.livejournal.com]

Thank you!

[mzcalypso.livejournal.com]

Re eppies ... my guess is that the finals judge recognized the stolen work. I did judging, and since I hadn't read anything along the lines of the books I read, all of them could have been stolen in their entirety and I wouldn't have known. I'd guess either a finals judge saw something that rang a bell, or someone was bragging about being an Eppie finalist and somebody read an excerpt and blew the whistle. Either way, I'm glad it was caught.

[erastes.livejournal.com]

I should have been more explicit - that I sent them a very angry email and it was withdrawn immediately on the day.

I can imagine that perhaps one romance reader wouldn't have recognised Jane Eyre - but not the number needed to get to the final! Or if they didn't , they really should have..

[ctrl-issue.livejournal.com]

Congrats on getting relentless. ~_^ For me, that was well worth the price of admission, you know. ^_^ You can hold off for a while before you get the next vol., *said with a great deal of prejudice against said vol*. The art isn't all that great, and neither is Mr. Millar's story telling.

The thing about The Authority is that it actually "pioneered" some of the artistic style, what with it occasionally going "wide screen". When it did that, a lot of other titles took up the practice. Not every issue, mind, but there are a great many that occasionally do that. I've got at least one issue of Xmen off the top of my head that did it.*nodnod*

... and now I will try to stop being a dork.

[erastes.livejournal.com]

I appreciate the dorks on my list!! What is the next volume and how do I find out this kind of information?

[lherelenfeline.livejournal.com]

Not gonna spoil you, but I actually liked it and I get my comics form Forbidden Planet. Honestly though, I suggest you get the hard cover Absolute Authority.
Here's a link to the wikipedia entry, which is pretty thorough. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Authority

£192!!!!

[erastes.livejournal.com]

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Absolute-Authority-Warren-Ellis/dp/1563898829

Re: £192!!!!

[lherelenfeline.livejournal.com]

[sigh] yeah. pricey, but you're talking about a collectible that's got years of the comic....

[ctrl-issue.livejournal.com]

Well, for a basic run down you can go here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Authority). The next vol. in the series is here (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Authority-Under-New-Management/dp/1840232765/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1219373065&sr=8-2). If'n you're mostly interested in Apollo and Midnighter, their "first" appearance is actually in Storm Watch (which Ellis wrote), but not until the fourth vol, and that's a lot of graphic novels to get through to get to the stuff you'd want to pay attention to (if you're only in it for Apollo/Midnighter).

However!

You do realize that there are Authority communities on Lj, yes? Some icons have been posted recently to at least one of them, but it's been a while for ficage for at least the one that I'm a part of...

Hope this helps. ^_^

[erastes.livejournal.com]

Helps a lot, always difficult to find your way around new canon!

[kcwarwick.livejournal.com]

I recommend 'Every One A Witness - The Tudor Age' by A.F.Scott, published in 1975 so almost certainly out of print, but your library should be able to get it for you.

[erastes.livejournal.com]

Thank you - I'll try the library, but they are spectacularly useless!!

Thanks again!

[angelabenedetti.livejournal.com]

You know, it'd be bad enough that no one had noticed copying from a classic if it hadn't been mentioned earlier, but what amazed me was that it had been brought up and publicized earlier, and they still didn't pick up on it. o_O I would think that at the very least, they could assign someone, or someone for each category or whatever, to just Google all the books submitted at some point during the judging process. Even if they don't have time to Google every fifth line or whatever, just making sure that they'd catch someone else's catch would be a huge improvement.

It's great that they're going to have the prospective finalists gone over by another set of eyes, but come one folks, this is what Google is for. [sigh]

None of which answers the question of why the publisher or author didn't withdraw the book once it was pulled from publication for plagiarism, but that's a whole 'nother rant. :/

Angie

[erastes.livejournal.com]

I've had it argued to me that not everyone would have recognised the copied text as quickly as I did - or gehayi did - or anyone who's at all familiar with the original did but I find it almost impossible to believe that: orphan goes to strict boarding school, becomes governess/tutor, falls in love with brooding owner of huge house, agrees to marry him, finds he has a wife in the attic, runs off, comes back and marries him - could have been missed by anyone. Is there really any person (particularly readers) who doesn't know about the mad wife in the attic? How many films and television adaptations have there been?

And yes, Dreamspinner were remiss in not pulling the book from the EPPIES after they pulled it from their catalogue. However, they do seem to have weathered it well, and are producing some decent stuff now, which I applaud them for.