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This drives me bonkers. Continuity is important. I know that it's difficult sometimes in mad action scenes to keep track of everyone, and I'm sure that if I was writing an orgy I'd be struggling to keep everyone organised and not know which him was who and who was doing what to whom, but otherwise, why is it so hard to have people actually enter the room before they speak, or actually take the baby before they have it in their arms? I've just read a scene where someone has someone else at swordspoint - and keeping the point at the man's throat he reduces the distance between them to less than a hand's width.

How - exactly - is this possible without running the other man through the neck, or dislocating his shoulder and possibly cutting his arm off? ARGH!

And another agent rejection. A perfect end to the day! *sends it out again*

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Date: 2009-06-11 10:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angelabenedetti.livejournal.com
LOL! (About the continuity thing, not the agent rejection. {{}}) I've read things like that. I love when the writer gets tangled in a sex scene, especially when they're working around a couch or a big chair or something, and they describe a maneuver which is completely impossible, or which would require one of the guys to have a cock at least two feet long, or something like that. I've occasionally recommended the use of action figures, or even paper dolls, to help with sex scene staging for writers who have that kind of problem. :)

Angie

Date: 2009-06-11 11:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lee-rowan.livejournal.com
I did that a couple of times in TW--had someone flop on the bed without having got off it, for instance.

Re the sword--if he had the point at the other guy's throat, arm extended at the shoulder, he could bend his elbow and lower his hand so that instead of the blade being parallel to the floor, it was brought down to point up as he moved closer in. Reminds me of one of those Robin Hood movies with Rasil Bathbone and D. Fairbanks Jr, where the scene really should have the caption, "Kiss me, you fool!"

It works--I just tried it with my sweetie. (It isn't the wierdest blocking I've worked out with her, either...)

Date: 2009-06-12 12:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valarltd.livejournal.com
I sent my boys to the dining car, then had them take breakfast in their banquette.
*headdesk*
My editor has sharp eyes, fortunately.

Date: 2009-06-12 12:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] valarltd.livejournal.com
Like these?
http://nbrooks.livejournal.com/66411.html
esp. 6 & 7

Fairbanks Sr was Silent Robin Hood and the Thief of Baghdad. Jr. was Sinbad.
Flynn was Technicolor Robin Hood.

(I have a thing for swashbucklers)

Date: 2009-06-12 01:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lee-rowan.livejournal.com
That is the Very Shot I had in mind, but I'm afraid I can't tell either of the Fairbanks apart from Flynn. Jaw you could crack an egg on, roguish moustache, lots of teeth, and very well-developed thighs....

Men In Tights...who's looking at the faces?

Date: 2009-06-12 07:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] essayel.livejournal.com
LOL, i just did that with the grandfather clock and my rubber rapier. It's so good to have props.

Date: 2009-06-12 07:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] markprobst.livejournal.com
I agree, especially Errol Flynn. I've got practically all his movies on DVD and I drool over them often. He's got some great age-of-sail flicks too: "Captain Blood", and "The Sea Hawk".

Date: 2009-06-12 08:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chris-smith-atr.livejournal.com
Ask Erastes about my amazing people that zoom up and down staircases from phrase to phrase without ever moving a muscle. Or the bloke whose heart stopped on page 47 and still managed to make it to page 455 without any sort of intervention!

Oh it amuses me when I do that.


And E... xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

I just slept for 14 hours straight. Headache seems to be sort of leaving. Thank god.

Date: 2009-06-12 08:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angelabenedetti.livejournal.com
Yikes! [grin] Hopefully that was caught before publication?

Angie

Date: 2009-06-12 08:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
I can see that working with a rapier or an epee, but not a sabre - but thanks, that's a good tip, so I'll not mention the continuity in the review. I will be mentioning the spelling, however. "Gold standard of publishing" my arse...

My thanks to sweetie, and you!

Date: 2009-06-12 08:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
I love my flist. :)

Date: 2009-06-12 08:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
God - i really want to get you all together in one room with alcohol and a lot of b&w slashy movies.

*happy sigh*

Date: 2009-06-12 08:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
Glad you are feeling better, hun

Date: 2009-06-12 08:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chris-smith-atr.livejournal.com
Oh god yes - it's still being edited. Extremely slowly. My masochistic side thought that starting with an MM set in renaissance florence that really wants to be a historical novel when it grows up was a good idea.

*dies of laughter*

Date: 2009-06-12 08:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
Nod nod - those posable dolls are very useful, specially the ones with all the joints posed - I've been known to email friends who have them and see if a position can work!

Date: 2009-06-12 08:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chris-smith-atr.livejournal.com
You are not officially awake! I cannot see you!

(head still a bit out so will be here and gone)

Date: 2009-06-12 08:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angelabenedetti.livejournal.com
Mmm, I love Renaissance Florence. :D When I was choosing classes at college (university if you're anywhere but the US) I was debating whether the primary emphasis for my history major should be medieval Europe or Renaissance Italy. I ended up with the Middle Ages, but it was a close call and I took some Renaissance classes anyway. :) Definitely holler when your book comes out!

Angie

Date: 2009-06-12 08:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chris-smith-atr.livejournal.com
Hahah. I love the perennial optimism! I'll go with "if" at the moment!

I got into florence through uni too - architecture. Went up for the day (yes, was at uni THAT close) and was entranced. Desperately want to go back sometime soon. Such a lovely city!

Medieval is great too - though not something I know much about! :)

Mind if I add you to the list - I'm not very useful today but will attempt usefulness next week when the headache from hell may finally go away!

Date: 2009-06-12 08:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angelabenedetti.livejournal.com
My focus was the early years of the University of Paris, if that's ever useful. I might not remember much at this point, but I still have some of the major books. :)

And sure -- add away.

Have you ever been to Florence? My husband and I went a couple of years ago and it's awesome. :D Really beautiful, and I loved being surrounded by history in a way you just can't get in the US. I took a bunch of pictures, wherever it was allowed, plus a bunch in Pisa where we went for a day trip -- they have a really nice museum near the Tower.

Angie

Date: 2009-06-12 08:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chris-smith-atr.livejournal.com
I went with uni - they stuck us all in a plane for a day! I live in the UK at the moment... but was living down just past Italy at the time.

I think I prefer Florence to Venice. Thought it is a close call. May be because they let us in everywhere as we were uni students in Florence. Just amazing.

Oh, and adding now! :)

Date: 2009-06-12 08:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angelabenedetti.livejournal.com
I never got to take field trips that cool. :( The husband has promised to go back some time, though. And I want to go to Venice too -- for the city itself, and also because I want to see Burano. I've done a bit of needle lace, and the school at Burano is supposed to be the premier needle lace school in the world. If they have a museum or something, I'd love to spend a day with a camera and a drool bucket. :D

Angie

Date: 2009-06-12 09:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chris-smith-atr.livejournal.com
Oh you'd love Venice... Burano is lovely - there are museums, if my extremely hazy recollection is correct. have a feeling that it is where I first saw those Xian Pottery Warriors about 17 years ago (now I feel ancient!). I think it was the lace and the pottery side by side that stuck that in my head!

If you want needle lace - you may want to try Malta as well if you're in the general vicinity - my aunt still does it . Scary stuff - I have the patience of a flea.

And if you're in Venice, be sure to get into the Jewish Ghetto. I'm not insane, it's like a world within a world! Just fantastic. Sort of like Prague, but more contained!

Date: 2009-06-12 09:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
Tip: go to Venice in the Winter, or at the most early spring or autumn. You may have probs like cold and a bit of flooding (although i understand that's much better now) but the summer can be VERY hot, humid, mosquitoes and quite smelly - as well as being packed to the rafters with tourists. I've been in all seasons and it's at its most beautiful out of the summer season imho.

Date: 2009-06-12 09:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chris-smith-atr.livejournal.com
Agreement! Winter or Autumn. Spring is insane with carnivals. And Summer is hideous.

Date: 2009-06-12 11:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crawling-angel.livejournal.com
Continuity>>> I had images of Mr Chumley Warner there...jumping scenery/people, lol!

*joins you in the sending* *makes coffee and fruity bread toast to boost stamina*

Date: 2009-06-12 11:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
ha ha ha! yes, that's exactly it - or Acorn Antiques!

Scoffs!

Date: 2009-06-12 11:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
heh yes, my characters are always in the wrong room than the one they walked into...

Date: 2009-06-12 11:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crawling-angel.livejournal.com
*bes Mrs Overall and serves more*

One of my favourite sketches is the one in which Victoria is a waitress. "Is it ont'rolley? Can you point to it?" is used quite a bit in our house, lol.

Date: 2009-06-12 03:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] essayel.livejournal.com
Your flist wuvs you too

Date: 2009-06-12 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lee-rowan.livejournal.com
I used a big wooden cooking spoon. It's a good thing writers don't have 24/7 camera crews, we'd all be locked up for our own safety.

Date: 2009-06-12 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lee-rowan.livejournal.com
We need a Macaronis field trip to Merry Olde England. Maybe not this year, but soon!

Date: 2009-06-12 06:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] essayel.livejournal.com
Oh good lord yes. Just the things I do with my little poseable wooden mannikins would get me locked up in Tennesee.

Big wooden cooking spoons are good. I used one, plus a kitchen stool and some tea towels, to make very effective trebuchet once. It threw a tangerine thirty feet.

Date: 2009-06-12 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lee-rowan.livejournal.com
um...

Why?

Date: 2009-06-12 06:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] essayel.livejournal.com
It was easier and quicker to make it than to try and explain the principles of power from torsion to my son who was about seven.

A lot more fun too.

Date: 2009-06-12 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lee-rowan.livejournal.com
Oh, that makes sense.

I had a massage client once whose kid--about that same age--was obsessed with arbalests. He was making them out of Tinkertoys and those little plastic doodahs that snap together. I'll bet his parents can't wait til he gets to engineering school.

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