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Very bloody clever. It’s raining all over my inbox and outside too.

My weekly Blog Spot is up on Jessewave’s Blog – I’m expanding a little about converted fanfic with more thoughts and links. Please pop over and share your opinions. I’m a little conflicted about it.

http://reviewsbyjessewave.blogspot.com/2009/07/do-you-mind-if-serial-numbers-still.html

Today I started the third installment of “Joint Venture” which will be (eventually I hope) a collection of short stories about two married men in space with an over-reaching arc. Part one (Whatever the Risk) will be out in Queered Dimensions later in the year.  This story needs to be at least 25k, for submission to the market I’ve just seen, but I don’t know whether it’ll be that long. We’ll see. It’s not a size I’m very comfortable with…

Date: 2009-07-14 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rwday.livejournal.com
Today I started the third installment of “Joint Venture”

Oh, yay. I love those characters!

Date: 2009-07-14 06:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
Thanks hun - me too! Not quite sure what mischief Kyr is going to get up to yet, but he's bored and that's not a good sign...

Date: 2009-07-14 06:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emeraldsedai.livejournal.com
I'd like to comment at Jessewave's blog, but sadly, I can't linger on the NSFW page long enough right now to do so without raising some serious eyebrows here in my workplace.

The converted fanfic issue is killing me right now, because the long piece I'm working on truly stands on the margin and could go either way, so it's hard for me to be neutral on the subject. I'm not completely sure I understand the issue. Comments on the blog suggest that there's an "originality" argument, and other comments suggest that originality is, of course, impossible, but that there are degrees of copying that aren't acceptable.

I think, overall, I agree with your comment that if the story is very well written, and if the serial-number-filing-off is smooth, I'd have no objection. The more particular the source material, and the more closely the story cleaves to it, the harder this is to do, of course.

Google Knows Everything, by the way.

Date: 2009-07-14 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
Here's the non-picture version, hun - I usually post that at the same time, and forgot!

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=5773168361227016280&postID=405484486312380390

I have conflicted issues because I have a Shakespeare play that I want to re-imagine, and so that puts me squarely in the same camp as the Mr Darcy Diary writers, but at least I'm actually using REAL characters from out-of-copyright fic, not thinly disguised characters of IN copyright novels.

Date: 2009-07-14 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rwday.livejournal.com
I have conflicted issues because I have a Shakespeare play that I want to re-imagine, and so that puts me squarely in the same camp as the Mr Darcy Diary writers,

Throw in some zombies. That seems to be the trend.

Date: 2009-07-14 07:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
*snorting*

Date: 2009-07-14 10:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emeraldsedai.livejournal.com
Thanks for the SFW link. The other one was MUCH prettier, but I'm still at work.

The post has generated a lot of interesting comments, and from them I'm gathering that some fanfic authors actually are publishing-for-money their fic, in a situation where "global search and replace" is all the serial-number filing they do. I didn't realize that this was happening.

I can't imagine why anyone would find fault--legal, ethical, or creative--with your Shakespeare idea. You'd be adding your mite to a powerful and time-honored tradition. Heck, Shakespeare himself was doing it.

Date: 2009-07-15 12:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ammonite7.livejournal.com
I wrote a number of fanfics that have very little to do with the world from which they originally came - a couple TV shows. I wrote them because there was an audience for the characters. I will use them on my site as free samples of my writing, which I hope will be a marketing tool to get readers to pay for other stories.

One way to do it.

Date: 2009-07-15 05:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
yes - that's a good way to do it, too!

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