Date: 2009-08-10 12:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] copperbeech.livejournal.com
Indeed, they do. My pattern seems to be I start writing whatever my project is, then part way I write a synopsis (in my own weird language) to keep on track. Then I have to go back and retrofit it.

I hate writing all of that stuff. The writing around the writing.

Good luck!

Date: 2009-08-10 12:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] liriaen.livejournal.com
That may be, but they're the key.

Date: 2009-08-10 12:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vashtan.livejournal.com
Write me my endings, I'll write your synopses.

Date: 2009-08-10 12:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
*kicks them*

Date: 2009-08-10 12:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
Do what I do, and write your ending first. That way you've always got something to aim for.

Date: 2009-08-10 12:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
It just seems so .... DULL. A did this. Then he did that. Then he went and did that. It turns what I find to be an interesting book (sorry about the non-modesty) into a list of dull actions.

grrrr.

Date: 2009-08-10 12:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vashtan.livejournal.com
Do they end like that, then, or do you change the ending when it turns out differently?

Date: 2009-08-10 12:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
No, so far, they've all ended that way - i find that it keeps me focussed and that I know how it ends I have to get there, one way or another. Originally I took the idea from JKR, and now it's become "the way I work" - Mere Mortals is all done and I'm just workin gout how to join the dots from where I am to there, it's working, but slowly.

I can't change things easily, once they are written, as they've happened, if you get what i mean.

Date: 2009-08-10 12:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vashtan.livejournal.com
Thing is, my characters do things in the middle and that changes the outcome. No book has ended the way I erote it in my "working outline". Not one. Characters that were supposed to live, die, those that should die, live, antagonists turn out to be douchebags and get replaced by tougher/better antagonists... I wish I was that much in control of what I'm doing.

Date: 2009-08-10 12:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] liriaen.livejournal.com
Not going to help, I'm afraid. Try looking at your original text twice removed and from a ladder and then halve every sentence you've got so far?

Date: 2009-08-10 12:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
I suppose it's a bit easier for me, writing romance at the moment, I have to keep the protags alive, or at least two of them! I don't outline, the ending is the only outline i have.

Date: 2009-08-10 01:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vashtan.livejournal.com
Yeah, maybe it's the fluidity of my non-genre - it's all open for debate, ad characters always misbehave, regardless of what kind of text I write. The worst thing is - they are right. If I can get an ending, it's usually better than the one I had in mind. :)

Date: 2009-08-10 01:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chris-smith-atr.livejournal.com
Write it bitch. ;)

Or option 2 - I'll write it. There may be more unicorns, smexing, and squid. And pegasuses!!!

Date: 2009-08-10 01:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
it would be more interesting than it is now.

Date: 2009-08-10 01:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chris-smith-atr.livejournal.com
Bollocks.

Pass it over tonight. I'll take a look. Are you concentrating on the right aspect of it? I.e. the mounting horror - as opposed to a litany of X does Y... you showing the consequences in the synopsis?

Date: 2009-08-10 02:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] essayel.livejournal.com
Writing the ending first! That's a good idea.

I've never had to write a synopsis, but hope to be as frustrated and annoyed as you are one day, if I produce anything worth subbing. For the moment you have your sympathy. It must be awful to have to condense something you've sweated blood over down to a sheet of A4.

Date: 2009-08-10 02:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dcjuris.livejournal.com
Someone recently said to me, about my synopsis for "One Year", something on the order of it would benefit from being cut down to one page. ::sigh:: I did *not* reply about the fact that it took me THREE MONTHS to get it down to TWO PAGES. Trudge ahead, lovely. :-)

Date: 2009-08-10 04:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kcwarwick.livejournal.com
I agree absolutely. I can write the things, but how on earth do you make them sound interesting?

Date: 2009-08-10 05:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
Personally I think one or two pages is perfectly adequate, some publishers want pages of stuff! eek!

Date: 2009-08-10 05:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
The best synopsis I have is for Junction X and that was written by Lee Rowan, it focusses on the concept rather than the plot A+b+C and really rocks. I just wish i could write 'em like that.

Date: 2009-08-10 05:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
Writing the ending first really really works for me, not always first, exactly, but certainly pretty early on.

Yes, the "writing about the writing" blurbs, synopses, bios are the bane of writers' existence.

Date: 2009-08-10 05:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spindriftdancer.livejournal.com
If you didn't find it interesting then you wouldn't be writing it... (:

Date: 2009-08-10 05:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
Well the book is interesting - and i have to write the synopsis, if I want to sell it!!

Date: 2009-08-10 06:01 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-08-10 06:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gehayi.livejournal.com
Send me what you've got and I'll check it out.

Date: 2009-08-10 10:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crawling-angel.livejournal.com
OMg, I know! Once I'd finished SC's I thought, shit ... nobody's going to want to read this pap. Then I fell asleep...

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