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Climb in the back with your head in the erastes,
and you're gone.

Which song was this lyric from?

Get your own lyrics:


Which seems very apt, actually.

I am reading The Catch Trap. Superb book. Not the least because it's about 500 pages of fat hardback. But it's not an easy read--I don't mean it's convoluted imagery fuelled drug-induced prose, but there's a few hard realistic aspects to it that -- in these days of publishers who won't look at books with protags having sex under 18 (muttermutterutterbilgedon'tgetmestarted)--would have trouble getting published today. But it is real and I applaud the author for that. Won't say more because I want to review it for SIN (and possibly Jessewave too, if she'll let pass the heterosexual experimentation that both protags do) and I need to get my head straight before I review it. Plus I need to finish it. But soooo good. It's one of those books that you read slowly because you don't want it to end.

The icon is for [livejournal.com profile] c_smith_author AND SHE KNOWS WHY.

Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds

Date: 2009-12-10 08:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joannesopercook.livejournal.com
Elton's version is better than the original, IMHO. :)

Re: Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds

Date: 2009-12-10 08:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
Bleurgh. I dislike both of 'em actually.

Re: Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds

Date: 2009-12-10 08:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joannesopercook.livejournal.com
I'm not fussed with either version, but I do like Elton's, if I have to choose one...I'm not a huge Beatles fan, myself. :)

Date: 2009-12-10 08:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arionrhod.livejournal.com
I know you said not to get you started... ;)

I wonder when we won't be able to kill characters any longer because it's murder. By their logic, if writing underage sex is child porn then killing a character would be premeditated homicide, right? And fictional rape would be real?

Sometimes I wonder when I fell asleep and woke up in the twilight zone.

Date: 2009-12-10 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
i know - because NO-ONE EVER HAS SEX BEFORE 18 not even in Europe where it's as low as 13 in some countries.

They all wait! because that's the law in California!!!

Date: 2009-12-10 08:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] markprobst.livejournal.com
I've heard about that book and always meant to read it. Isn't it fun to read vintage gay fiction. The book is out-of-print and difficult to find. *thinks to self "I wonder who holds the rights and if they are interested in re-pubbing it"*

Date: 2009-12-10 10:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
the copy i have is random house--but i know many many people would want it re-released--i'm very surprised someone hasnt done it

Date: 2009-12-11 05:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gaedhal.livejournal.com
It's ridiculous that it's not in print.

I thought maybe after Bradley died they'd do -- I mean
so much crap IS in print, yet this is not. It doesn't
make sense.

Concerning the age thing -- Dickens? "The Persian Boy"?
"Lolita"? Stuff happens, folks. It's reality. And it's
not always skeevy pervs. "Romeo and Juliet" would be
flagged, I guess -- if it isn't already. And don't
even talk about Judy Blume!

Date: 2009-12-11 08:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
There's a slight aspect of "taking advantage" even though Tommy says he realises he wanted it AFTER Mario started touching him, but I felt uncomfortable about Mario doing that--however, it's realistic and I realised that I had to look it in the face rather than live in the not-very-real m/m land!

Date: 2009-12-12 04:25 pm (UTC)
aunty_marion: Vaguely Norse-interlace dragon, with knitting (Default)
From: [personal profile] aunty_marion
Mine's a Ballantine Books paperback, published in 1979. (But it says inside that Ballantine is a subsidiary of Random House.)

Date: 2009-12-10 08:54 pm (UTC)
aunty_marion: Vaguely Norse-interlace dragon, with knitting (Naked Remus rugby player)
From: [personal profile] aunty_marion
I adore The Catch Trap - I re-read it about once a year, and it must be about time for it again, because I was watching Trapeze last week, which always reminds me of the book (though the film isn't based on it, and I can't get hold of the book it *is* based on!).

Date: 2009-12-10 10:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
oooo---trapeze is slashiness personnified!!

Date: 2009-12-10 10:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crawling-angel.livejournal.com
That was the first lyric I didn't know today. There haven't been that many mind.

*sneaks more pies in the catflap*

Date: 2009-12-10 10:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
i put the blame on an older sister with a beatle obsession

Date: 2009-12-11 05:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lee-rowan.livejournal.com
Lucius in the sky with catnip....

I read Catch Trap ages ago and don't remember much about it - but I'd read both Fire from Heaven and one of the Merrick books at about the same time, and FFH just eclipsed the other two.

Date: 2009-12-11 02:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lee-rowan.livejournal.com
Gordon Merrick, The Lord Won't Mind and a couple of others. Impressive for their time, but I didn't like them very much.

Date: 2009-12-11 10:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chris-smith-atr.livejournal.com
Words that begin with E:

Enabler
Evil
Electricity


YOU EVIL ELECTRIC ENABLER!

Also: Does the erastes have a sign which indicates where one puts ones head?

Date: 2009-12-11 03:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cynbaby.livejournal.com
Mmmm. That's a book that I have in paperback, but I'm really holding off on reading it, until I can beg, borrow or steal a copy in hardcover.

Date: 2009-12-11 05:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
well worth it - although I still have about 40 or so pages to go and I'm dreading it may end badly. argh.

Date: 2009-12-11 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ammonite7.livejournal.com
Yet Anne Rice is published and "Armand" is in our local library, which will not carry her erotica. Yet "Armand" has several scenes where a young boy is seduced and sexual with an older man. To me, this is truly the sort of thing that should not be acceptable, yet it seems to be. If those responsible are going to dictate what we read, they should at least read it first in order to have some idea what they are talking about.

Date: 2009-12-11 05:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
How young is the boy? As I say - not every country in the world has the same restrictions as California! I wouldn't read AR - read one and the writing was so dire I wouldn't waste my time on another one, I have to be honest. I really can't see what all the fuss is about.

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