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We would like to know who really believes in gay rights on livejournal. There is no bribe of a miracle or anything like that. If you truly believe in gay rights, then repost this and title the post as "Gay Rights". If you don't believe in gay rights, then just ignore this. Thanks.

Firstly - I'd like to know who "We" are.

Are We Livejournal itself? And if so why?

Are We The Anti-Sodomitic Tribe of Zambezi with Uber Hacking Powers? George Dubya? The Make Me Gay Brigade?

And WTF with the moral blackmail "If you don't believe in gay rights then just ignore this."???

If you don't believe that kittens should be well cared for, ignore this. OK?

I don't like to be told what to do, and I object very strongly the implication that I'm anti-something just because I don't turn into a fucking sheep. I'm lucky, I know, that I come from a country where I can stand in the street (or even go on television) and take the piss out of the Queen, or Tony Blair and no men in uniforms will come round my house in the middle of the night. (Sadly) I have the right to dress as a chicken and call myself Mr McCluck. I have the right to be gay. Or not. I have to right to approve of gays. Or not. I have the right to consider myself black, even if I'm not. I have the right to vote. But then I have the right to scoff chocolate and get pissed instead of voting, and care not a whit that generations of women were run over by racehorses for my rights.

So don't go and tell me that if I'm not part of the solution, I'm part of the problem. If I want to be part of either, I'll make my own mind up. And I'll only tell you if I feel like it. Whoever you are.

Thanks.

Date: 2006-10-03 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sionnain.livejournal.com
WORDY MCWORDYSON. Like, I love how I'm some EEEVIL GAY HATING BITCH because I didn't post a meme. *eye roll* I'm totally fine with gay marriage and if someone wants to know that, they can ask me.

Oh, and things like this?
no men in uniforms will come round my house in the middle of the night. (Sadly)

Totally why I *heart* you.

Date: 2006-10-03 04:32 pm (UTC)
angrboda: Viking style dragon head finial against a blue sky (Default)
From: [personal profile] angrboda
I've never considered this type of meme in that particular light before, so you've sort of just opened my eyes and I have to say I agree with you.

I don't like people trying to install a feeling of guilt in me because I rarely do memes, and I'm sure they didn't mean it quite that way, but still.

Date: 2006-10-03 04:33 pm (UTC)
ext_13197: Hexe (mediocre smut writer)
From: [identity profile] kennahijja.livejournal.com
Well, I don't know about you but *I* think that kittens should be well cared for!

Seriously, I think the memeish thing was probably started without any blackmailish vibes in mind, but it comes across pretty, well, blackmail-like... Not to mention a bit redundant in the slash-corner of fandom...

I'd have said its potential for harm is probably limited, but - skims flist - maybe not...

Date: 2006-10-03 04:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nassima.livejournal.com
Thank you for writing this!

Word

Date: 2006-10-03 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vashtan.livejournal.com
Plus the sentiment about men in uniforms. RAWR

Date: 2006-10-03 04:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rwday.livejournal.com
Yes, didn't you know? If you refuse to do the meme, anonymous bloggers will come to your house in the middle of the night and paint your mailbox pink.

I'm for gay rights in the sense of full human rights for anybody, gay or straight or otherwise. However, I'm against stupid memes and those who promulgate them.

Date: 2006-10-03 04:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] irreparable.livejournal.com
I agree with this, and I resent the fact that if I don't post the damn thing then it's some sort of unspoken thingo about how I don't support GBLT rights. Even though I do support them, but then I feel bad/stupid/waah for not posting the meme thingo, so catch 22. I make no sense right now, I sleepy. But.

(Sadly) I have the right to dress as a chicken and call myself Mr McCluck.

That line made me laugh so much I spat coke on the laptop. Have an internetz. :D

OMG

Date: 2006-10-03 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dubaiyan.livejournal.com
You hate the gays!!1

Date: 2006-10-03 06:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ms-beeblebrox.livejournal.com
I saw that on my friends' page just now, and then I see this on the friends of page. So, thank you, random person I do not know. Agree with you completely. This sort of blackmail is as bad as email spam.

Date: 2006-10-03 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
I'm glad! And most happy you popped along and commented. Love meeting new people.

Re: OMG

Date: 2006-10-03 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
Yup.

and Kittens.

Date: 2006-10-03 06:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
I nearly choked to death over your icon...

Date: 2006-10-03 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ariadneelda.livejournal.com
Well said!

I don't mind other people choosing to do this kind of memes in their journals but I'm not going to be guilted into doing them myself. I don't think I have to post that statement to prove my support to gay rights. Or my opinion about anything, for that matter. Even if I wanted to, the emotional blackmail just puts me off.

Date: 2006-10-03 06:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
It could be a good wheeze, specially if I moved into a nice old thatched cottage that needed pink paint.

It would look rather odd on my brick house tho.

Promulgate! I have a friend with vocab! *Impressed*

Re: Word

Date: 2006-10-03 06:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
:) They did come once. My kitchen was on fire and I was dead drunk in bed.

*hopeless*

Date: 2006-10-03 06:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
I find it much easier to rant now I don't have fandom to pander to. I can just offend EVERYONE!!!

:)

Date: 2006-10-03 07:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
There's never a man in a black uniform and black boots around JUST when you could really do with one, is there?

Date: 2006-10-03 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
It's like chain letters. Send to 20 people in five minutes or 200 seal pups will die.

ick.

Date: 2006-10-03 07:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sionnain.livejournal.com
My dear, there certainly is *not*. Though I like to dream. *g*

Date: 2006-10-03 07:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
Redundant. Absolutely. What creeped me out was the fact that someone was tracking it somehow!

Date: 2006-10-03 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
hear hear!

Date: 2006-10-03 08:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tammylee.livejournal.com
I felt like a snarky bitch last night when I wrote, "I don't do chain posts" in response to someone on my flist posting this meme. I'm glad you posted this so I know it isn't just me who feels this way.

Date: 2006-10-03 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catsintheattic.livejournal.com
Word on what you said.

This meme is superfluous and patronising.

Re: Word

Date: 2006-10-03 09:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eroticjames.livejournal.com
Oh and what a missed op that was. Damn.

Rather bemused viewing havoc. The discussions thus far have been far better then the stupid gacked meme that's going around. I should not, btw, be allowed on livejournal when I'm slightly plowed. Although if it could bring big men in black suits to my door (in big stompy boots)...

Bravo <applauds you wildly>

Date: 2006-10-04 12:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pwookie.livejournal.com
as a registered fl democrat
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as a registered fl democrat<Tell us about it..> you sir stated the most commonsense points in an eloquent and rational manner
Raises my glass

Pwookie

Date: 2006-10-04 09:20 am (UTC)
julesjones: (Spindrift cover art)
From: [personal profile] julesjones
You might enjoy this slightly edited version of the blackmail note:

http://ckd.livejournal.com/39649.html

Date: 2006-10-04 09:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] irreparable.livejournal.com
Sorry! I got it from the FW icon community on JF. And Father Ted! Yay for Father Ted!

Date: 2006-10-04 11:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ejab62.livejournal.com
I watched this turn up on my friends page more and more and it irritated the hell out of me. For the same reason you so perfectly described here. So, thank you for ranting about it. I wanted to write about it myself but since you already said everything I wanted to say, my mood has calmed down and I don't feel a need to do so any longer.
Think it was the emotional blackmail that got to me.

Date: 2006-10-04 06:50 pm (UTC)
ext_13197: Hexe (Default)
From: [identity profile] kennahijja.livejournal.com
What creeped me out was the fact that someone was tracking it somehow!

Eeep! Now *that* is weird, and pretty creepy indeed.

Date: 2006-10-06 11:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosie-red73.livejournal.com
Yup. It just seemed a bit daft to me really, a bit like preaching to the choir. I don't really feel the need to Stand Up And Be Counted because in the circles that I move in, it's generally accepted that the vast majority believes in gay rights and it's not really necessary to shout about it. It'd be a bit like putting up a meme stating my preference for not being stabbed with a sharp stick. You know, well... duh. But maybe that's just because we live in a country where we don't need to be so millitant, as you say.

Did you watch The Amazing Mrs. Pritchard? The voting thing just made me think of it. And also, I'm really not sure if you're getting my emails or not because my server is fucked, but just in case you're not, I'm not dead. :D

Date: 2006-10-06 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
If you want Rosie to be stabbed by a sharp stick, it's ok. You don't need to do anything.

If you don't, however....

*G*

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