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Just  in case Gawker decide not to approve my comment, I’ll post it here.

Dear Mr Moylan,

Oh dear – where to start?  It's a bit of a joke that lazy journalists don't bother to check any of their facts, but what's not new is that they really, really don't.  I don't know how you could have got more facts wrong unless you made it all up. Oh, yes. I see!


1. M/M isn't new. It didn't start with Kirk and Spock either.

2. And it's not "erotic novels" either. If you had bothered to look at any site that dealt with it, there are all levels of romance—just as there are for heterosexual romance.  Are you saying that heterosexual romances, which these days nearly all have sex scenes much more explicit than I remember from when I used to read 'em, are straight porn. Granted, my first two novels do have sex in them, quite a lot of it, but that's the PUBLISHER'S insistence. Some publishers want a sex scene in every chapter.

3. Dirty Stories? So gay sex is dirty?  That's a nice attitude you have there, Mr Moylan. Considering that you consider your own penis to be dirty, I think I understand where you are coming from.

4. "they aren't doing it for the boys who like boys."  No, we aren't. Neither are we writing for women. That's entirely false. The press release for the Running Press line originally said "written by straight women FOR straight women." Considering that none of the four flagship authors (Alex, myself, Lee Rowan, Donald Hardy) are straight women, we squashed that at birth.  I don't write for anyone but me, the fact that straight, bi, lesbian women and gay and bi men like my work is bunce.

5. The stereotyping of suburban women reading romance is so offensive I'm amazed you are kept on the site. These people probably do exist, but they are exactly the type that DON'T read gay romances. The Romance Writers of America for example are making sure that gay novels don't get accepted by their organisation. At one point they amended their definition of Romance to read that it had to be between a man and a woman. As you can imagine there was a shit storm about that and they had to recant.

6. As to our "secretly wanting to be gay men" – there's nothing secret about it. Have you never heard of intersex? Transex? If I could have the surgery, believe me, I would. It's not that unusual, but no – you choose instead to make fun of something you have no way of comprehending.  http://www.dearcupid.org/question/i-feel-like-im-a-gay-man-in.html

7. I don't know where you live, Mr Moylan, but newsflash. Gay sex isn't "forbidden" in the UK, and most? of the USA, (as far as I know). I find your farcical pseudo-psychobabble hilarious as you pathetically attempt to understand why – if I was a man – I'd be a Top. I love men, actually—and have no aspirations to stick it to any of them. Never owned nor used a strap on either, no interest in doing that. I'm a top in female relationships too. Not that it's anyone's business.

8. *still giggling at the term "vanquisher" * I must go and buy me one of those metal pointy bras.

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Date: 2010-08-19 06:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottynola.livejournal.com
Did you even read it? If so, both of you need to work on your reading comprehension skills.

Victoria Brownworth is a WOMAN. A Lesbian, and says so very clearly at the start of her piece.

Date: 2010-08-19 06:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
I think you are talking about a different article, Greg. The article I'm referring to is by a man. Brian Moylan

ETA; WRONG link...

http://gawker.com/5615899/why-are-straight-women-so-obsessed-with-gay-sex

Edited Date: 2010-08-19 06:20 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-08-19 06:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottynola.livejournal.com
THAT piece was offensive. Carry on.

Date: 2010-08-19 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
Greg - What did I do to piss you off? We've even worked together in the past, so if you had a beef with me, I would have liked to have known about it before you started accusing me of being a paedophile in public.

The age of consent is SIXTEEN in the UK - and there has been talk of lowering it to 14 like some European states. The fact that young people DO have sex under the age of 18 does not make me a paedophile. I have not written any books where this occurs.

I would appreciate an apology, as that was wholly uncalled for.

Date: 2010-08-19 06:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottynola.livejournal.com
I will apologize. That was uncalled for; misdirected anger.

Date: 2010-08-19 06:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
Thank you - I was entirely side-swiped by it. Much appreciated.

Date: 2010-08-19 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottynola.livejournal.com
My bad. I am emailing you.

Date: 2010-08-19 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spindriftdancer.livejournal.com
I never said she was a man...

This is so stupid beyond belief.

I'm ditching both of these accounts and starting fresh.

Date: 2010-08-19 07:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottynola.livejournal.com
Sigh. No need. I thought you were commenting on the Lambda piece, not the Gawker piece. My bad. See above.

Date: 2010-08-19 07:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spindriftdancer.livejournal.com
That's ok.

*hands you a cup of tea*

I'm not really a bitch, either. I just saw that and all I could think of was how destroyed Alex would be if she saw it...

Date: 2010-08-19 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottynola.livejournal.com
That piece was nasty.

And thanks for the tea!

I think we all get angry when we see friends being attacked;but if it's any consolation to Alex (which it might not be--I don't know her so can't say), maybe it will sell some books for her. I know being lambasted by the religious right sold a shitload of books for me.

Date: 2010-08-19 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spindriftdancer.livejournal.com
Who was it that said that any press is good, even negative press? ;p

Date: 2010-08-19 08:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottynola.livejournal.com
While it doesn't make it hurt any less, it is true, sadly.

Sorry things got so heated, Jennifer. Victoria is a friend of mine--so you were sticking up for your friend, I was sticking up for mine.

Peace? ;)

Date: 2010-08-19 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
It's very true - I checked False Colors and it's shot up. When Mrs Giggles ripped Standish a new one, I sold more copies that week than the rest of the year.

Thank you both for being grown ups.

Date: 2010-08-19 08:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottynola.livejournal.com
It's a constant struggle but I do try.

Date: 2010-08-19 08:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spindriftdancer.livejournal.com
Adults are just children with more hangups ;p

Maybe this will bring you untold riches to make up for the irritation in the posterior portions...

Date: 2010-08-19 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spindriftdancer.livejournal.com
Um, but I was commenting on *one* of the Lambda pieces. The one where you called Erastes a pedophile in the comments. This is Jennifer Thorne.

I'll be dumping both of these pseudonyms and starting fresh. I don't need that sort of crud following me around.

Date: 2010-08-19 08:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottynola.livejournal.com
I also apologized for that here and there.

Date: 2010-08-20 01:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lee-rowan.livejournal.com
Might as well stand your ground. The people who disagree with you will never change their minds, you won't change yours... False Colors hit #1 in Amazon during this latest rash, so obviously there are many readers who prefer to read and judge individual books instead of making sweeping assumptions.

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