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The first day, establishing a new "normal".

Back at work, and people are being fairly nice. Makes a bleeding change.

My creative writing workshop starts tomorrow, with the Divine Mr Tom (who I haven't met, but he sounds like Ian McKellern so my imagination insists that he will look like it. Of course he will ACTUALLY look like Bunsen Honeydew, and I will be dashed. However, HE'S probably hoping I look like Angelina Jolie and when Bibendum turns up, he'll be pretty disappointed too, so we are even on that score. I shall have to seduce him with my literary genius. *snorts*)

Which means of course that I won't be able to take advantage of Orange Wednesdays and get a free ticket to the cinema each week. grrr.

But I am dreading the first night of the course:

Writer One: Hello, I'm Susan and I write children's stories. My current WIP is about a mouse who has to stop her village from flooding.

Writer Two: Hello, I'm Bill and I write naval adventures. My current WIP is about the battle of the Nile.

Writer Three: Hello, I'm George and I write fantasy. My current WIP is about a boy born in New York who finds his mother was an elf.

Writer Four: Hello, I'm Erastes and I write gay porn. In breeches. My current WIP is about a 40 year old sexually repressed married stockbroker who falls in love with the next door neighbours' 17 year old son.

*stampede of feet heading for the exit.*

And I discovered that watching "The Usual Suspects" - even though I hadn't seen the movie before - when I knew who Kaiser Soze was in advance through spoilers, was a complete waste of time.

Ok. Off to try and reach my 750 words... Edward and Alec are in a car, and Edward is ruminating on the fact that the car has bench seats (normal in 1960) and that one swift reckless left turn would slide Alec along the seat towards him....

Date: 2007-01-09 01:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quatorze.livejournal.com
one swift reckless left turn would slide Alec along the seat towards him

...and I instantly thought "no, no, that has to be a right turn or he'll slide away" - then remembered that you're of course talking about UK cars. Oops.

Date: 2007-01-09 02:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eroticjames.livejournal.com
Bwhahahah, I did that on a plane.

"What are you working on so hard."

"Notes for a panel discussion at a conference."

"Really what about?"

long pause, "How to write gay porn directed at women."

The amusing part was for the next hour he couldn't do anything by stay on the very edge of the seat. Snerk.

Date: 2007-01-09 02:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beauty-seeker.livejournal.com
boy oh boy do i know how you feel dear bibidum ;)

i just started taking a workshop i was invited to because a woman liked my writing. she'd read one of my stories; however, the group is a literary fiction writing workshop. i'm happy about this, but i am nervous about presenting them with anything sexual. the first story i submitted for critique was actually a non erotic story, my first ever. but this next one, well it's not erotic but sexually graphic. it's weird to be the only pervy one in a group, well disclosed at least. too bad you can't take an erotica writing workshop. but there are few of those. i took one here with patrick califia and it was great. good luck with your class and remember, just be you (or whatever persona you'd like to be ;)

Date: 2007-01-09 02:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beauty-seeker.livejournal.com
i adore gay porn by the way, with a passion...and i am female. you don't need to write it specifically for women, that seems crazy to me. write it for gay men and we women will enjoy it all the more. i've read a few best gay erotica anthologies and i'm so disappointed when the stories are not really graphic and gritty ;)

Date: 2007-01-09 03:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eroticjames.livejournal.com
It was a Yaoi conference so it was for a rather "targeted" market, where there is a difference.

I do go off occasionally on tirades about the "women with dicks" you find in some of it. I want my men to be men.

*g*

Date: 2007-01-09 05:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vashtan.livejournal.com
I'd love to read that presentation, BTW, if you have the notes flying around? :)

Don't be ...

Date: 2007-01-09 05:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vashtan.livejournal.com
... scared. In all likelyhood, more than 50% are female (in my courses, that was more around 90%).

Out of those, there must be one or two who like gay porn. :) They might giggle and blush, chances are, you'll pique somebody's interest. :)

Have courage! Porn is a genre like any other. It's about the craft. That's what I tell them, anyway. :)

Date: 2007-01-09 06:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catsintheattic.livejournal.com
Have fun at your first day!

And I discovered that watching "The Usual Suspects" - even though I hadn't seen the movie before - when I knew who Kaiser Soze was in advance through spoilers, was a complete waste of time.

Funny. I'm the complete opposite. I like re-watching films, even if they have a twist and I already know it, like "The Sixth Sense" or "Fight Club". I love to look for the deception, how the film maker plays with expectation and perception to make us fall for the wrong assumptions.

Date: 2007-01-09 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
I think that might limit its appeal, apart from the gay love!! The very englishness of it!

Date: 2007-01-09 07:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
*giggles* I would have paid good money to have seen his face!

Date: 2007-01-09 07:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
I agree, I don't like chicks with dicks - and I've seen far too much of that in fanfic. I like my men to be men too - stubbly faces, hairy legs and arses! I bet there's few hairy arses in classic yaoi!

Date: 2007-01-09 07:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
I'm not sure what the mix is, but i'll let you all know tomorrow!

I have no idea what to expect, I dare say there will be drabbling and stuff for critique..

ARGH! Homework!!!

It will be nice to meet real flesh and blood writers, I have so many virtual ones but no real life types.

Date: 2007-01-09 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
Oh it was a good film and interesting to see how he threaded it all together, but I am a loather of spoilers and it just took the fun out of it for me. I couldn't watch The Sixth Sense again - although I have seen it twice!!

*G*

Date: 2007-01-09 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] beauty-seeker.livejournal.com
ah...i see...yaoi is not something i've gotten into.

Re: Don't be ...

Date: 2007-01-09 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
I'll be VERY surprised if there's anyone there who writes or admits to liking porn, let alone gay porn - although The Divine Tom did say that it sounded "fascinating" so he'll be on my side.

I'll just tone the idea down a bit, and put myself forward as a romantic novelist rather than a pron-ist. Which is true, in a way.

*G*

Date: 2007-01-09 07:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eroticjames.livejournal.com
No harriy asses, or anywhere at all except as maybe an afterthought. And while I've written characters who shave, it's definately that they're doing it for the sensation and not that they don't having any.

Date: 2007-01-09 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flowrs4ophelia.livejournal.com
And I discovered that watching "The Usual Suspects" - even though I hadn't seen the movie before - when I knew who Kaiser Soze was in advance through spoilers, was a complete waste of time.

LOL, that was exactly my experience with seeing that movie. I had seen the last five minutes before at a friend's house and heard how amazing this movie is. Then an hour and a half into the movie I was just like "I'm confused as hell and why exactly should I give a shit?"

Date: 2007-01-09 08:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iulia_linnea.livejournal.com
Regarding your fears for your class: Bwah! No, I'm not laughing at you, but I can't wait to see how close you are to the truth. ;) *hugs*

Date: 2007-01-09 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
I have found it's better to be pessimistic with these social activities....

Date: 2007-01-09 08:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
Glad it wasn't just me.

And the spoiler I got? From Doctor Dolittle of all bloody things....

JX: 40-17

Date: 2007-01-09 09:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dubaiyan.livejournal.com
Ooh did not know their ages before!

Date: 2007-01-09 09:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] predatrix.livejournal.com
(gigglegiggle)
I so relate to this. "Hullo, I'm Predatrix. I used to write pornographic fanfic about male sarcastic-bastard antiheroes getting it on with each other. Now I write actual books about my *own* sarcastic-bastard antiheroes getting it on with each other. So I'll only get legal problems because I write porn, not about the intellectual property side of it. Questions?"

Re: JX: 40-17

Date: 2007-01-09 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
Well, Edward could be a little younger, but not dreadfully much, perhaps 35 minimum...

And they are about 2k words away from their first snog...

Date: 2007-01-09 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
Oh my gawd, I'd completely forgotten the fanfic aspect.

I can just see Susie Cutesiwootsi's aspiring Enid Blyton's face when she hears that I've had Lucius rogering Draco on a regular basis.

*hides face in hands*

Date: 2007-01-10 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alankria.livejournal.com
Eh, this could just be my more feminine sensibilities, but I'm not so keen on the hairy arse part. =D I like my men a bit smoother, and my ideal men would probably annoy you to no end. *unashamed bishi-lover* Stubble, though. Now that is sexy.

Still, when it comes to characterisation, men are still men no matter who they like to sleep with. That part of the chicks-with-dicks problem does bother me, and hopefully I manage to avoid that in my own writing. :S

I bet I would have a fun time explaining one of my WIPs to a writing group. "It's about an alcoholic 37yrold who had an incestuous relationship with his sister when they were younger, but she killed herself, and now he meets a 16yrold boy who he sort of sees his sister in, so he decides to seduce said 16yrold boy. And succeeds, despite a bad habit of calling the boy his sister's name at inoportune moments." Romance that's not messed up is so boring.

And in case you're wondering 'Who the hell is this person?', I found you via the Iris Print website, as I'm planning to submit to the "fairy tale and fantasy" anthology, and I'm considering buying the Connections anthology and saw a positive review for your story in it, so headed over here.

Date: 2007-01-10 10:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] predatrix.livejournal.com
So do you think Malfoy incest would be more or less upsetting to people than Harry Potter buggering Professor Snape?

(snerk)

I write happy, bouncy, romantic stories. They'd just make some people deeply scared...

Cheers, Pred'x

Date: 2007-01-10 11:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
I read a submission call today which didn't want "tales of child molestation or incense."

*snorts*

Date: 2007-01-11 07:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] julesjones
Do you think they would take tales of child molestation *and* incense? (We'll skip the religious jokes, I think -- too easy a target.)

Someone, naming no writing partners, has just suggested "buggering with a joss stick". I think we'll keep the RPS out of it as well.

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