I'd been attempting to research model trains for weeks in a half hearted fashion. In the end I took
gehayi's advice and decided to find a Group somewhere and ask for help, like I did with Transgressions and the English Civil War.
So I joined this model train Yahoo Group and nervously introduced myself, and surprise surprise, the 400 members are all men, as far as I can see. I had a nice warm welcome with a TON of detailed information that left me spinning and then suddenly someone said: I wonder if anyone else checked the web site to see the nature of Erastes writings ?? Is he looking for a special link between the model railway hobby and a fashionable alternative lifestyle choice, or is there some genuine interest in model railways ??
I replied professionally and calmly and tried not to get angry about "fashionable alternative lifestyle choice" and assured them I was truly only interested in their trains. Plus, I added, Junction X is based in 1962, and homosexuality wasn't fashionable. Or a lifestyle. It was fear.
My web hits went slightly mad for an hour or two while all the train geeks rushed to look at the mucky website.
Then a lot of other train geeks went and stood up for me, in a very reasonable and liberal manner. I squirmed in my seat quite unnecessarily. They applauded me for wanting to get the details right and they say that it will be a different view of the train collector/modeller than the rather odd serial murderer image that they usually get.
So, basically - they'd rather be portrayed as sexy gay blokes than sad blokes who wear anoraks and live with their mothers! *giggles*
So I joined this model train Yahoo Group and nervously introduced myself, and surprise surprise, the 400 members are all men, as far as I can see. I had a nice warm welcome with a TON of detailed information that left me spinning and then suddenly someone said: I wonder if anyone else checked the web site to see the nature of Erastes writings ?? Is he looking for a special link between the model railway hobby and a fashionable alternative lifestyle choice, or is there some genuine interest in model railways ??
I replied professionally and calmly and tried not to get angry about "fashionable alternative lifestyle choice" and assured them I was truly only interested in their trains. Plus, I added, Junction X is based in 1962, and homosexuality wasn't fashionable. Or a lifestyle. It was fear.
My web hits went slightly mad for an hour or two while all the train geeks rushed to look at the mucky website.
Then a lot of other train geeks went and stood up for me, in a very reasonable and liberal manner. I squirmed in my seat quite unnecessarily. They applauded me for wanting to get the details right and they say that it will be a different view of the train collector/modeller than the rather odd serial murderer image that they usually get.
So, basically - they'd rather be portrayed as sexy gay blokes than sad blokes who wear anoraks and live with their mothers! *giggles*
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Date: 2006-11-24 12:00 am (UTC)Hee! *HUGS* This made me smile :D
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Date: 2006-11-24 12:11 am (UTC)And thanks hun. I attempt to entertain!
xxx
*flails at Lucius icon* I see so little of him, these days.
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Date: 2006-11-24 08:56 pm (UTC)*G*
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Date: 2006-11-24 06:53 am (UTC)My brother is in fact now a rail systems manager and well-known railroad magazine writer. (Warning: this is what that one teeny model train set under the Christmas tree can lead to!) I honestly think he was saved from utter social bigotry by the fact that of all the railfans he met as a teen, his best friend turned out to be an older guy who's gay, neither flaming nor in the closet, just a steady guy working for the railroads himself, and going home to the same man for 25 years now. Seems that over here, too, railroaders's strong values on personal rights and rationality -- and knowing a few gays who are fellow railroad workers or hobbyists -- can win out over any larger tendency to be socially reactionary.
rather be portrayed as sexy gay blokes than sad blokes who wear anoraks and live with their mothers and get featured as odd serial murderers.
*cracks up* Yep, they are a strange bunch but can be amazingly decent people. I'm tickled (and relieved) that you are having such a fun experience with them. And I am definitely looking forward to the story!
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Date: 2006-11-24 09:10 pm (UTC)It's a flipping mine-field, I can see that, someone I thought it was a case of bashing a load of track down and buying a fw trains!!
They are very very helpful and all very nice, I'm very fond of them already and am pleased to be their new pet. *G*
Aw thanks about looking forward to the story, it's only the trains that are holding it up!
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Date: 2006-11-24 07:49 am (UTC)*g*
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Date: 2006-11-24 11:51 am (UTC)Oh, SURE!!! Honestly... *g* That's made my morning so far. Not so much giggling, as cackling out loud.
You do know there's a certain ...symbolism... about trains and tunnels, don't you?
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Date: 2006-11-24 09:32 pm (UTC)Then when i first described the layout that the young man has I suddenly realised how symbolic it all was...
Oops!
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Date: 2006-11-24 09:36 pm (UTC)"My web hits went mad...while all the train geeks rushed to look at the mucky website"
Date: 2006-11-24 03:19 pm (UTC)Re: "My web hits went mad...while all the train geeks rushed to look at the mucky website"
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Date: 2006-11-24 09:44 pm (UTC)I won't mention the time I dressed up as a civil war soldier...
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