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I LOVED IT. I loved every single swashbuckling minute of it. It wasn't half an hour too long, it was, if anything a bit too short. I could have had another half an hour and wouldn't have cared. (although my bucket of diet pepsi was sitting a little uncomfortably me as we sat through the credits.) /tmi

The bit after the credits WAS a waste of time. I should have taken notice and not bothered, but still - I'd have always wondered what it was.

Anyway - here we go! Yo Ho!!

Jack; What can I say? Squeeee!!! Utterly wonderful. Fabulous entrance (how will they do another great entrance in 3??) He runs like a girl, you never EVER know what he's going to do, and why. Hasn't lost of smidge of the brilliant characterisation. In the 3 year gap he's as fresh as ever, it's as if he kept him in a box and dusted him off. Hilarious moments everywhere and in jokes that I just loved.

Will: Hunky from the first moment, he didn't have to "grow" into his part like the first film, he suits the part of Flynn-wannabee far better than he does Knight etc etc. Perfect straight man for Jack of course and the love between them is so clear you could use it for spectacles. LOVED LOVED LOVED the hurt puppy face when he'd seen the BITCH kissing Jack and the little slashy demon in my just knew that he was just as hurt at Jack kissing bitch than bitch kissing Jack.

Norrington: OH HUBBA hubba. Hold me down. I knew Davenport was handsome in a slightly greasy way, but ... I am in love - he was fucking gorgeous! Please - never put that man in a white wig again! (However I'd sure he will be all bewigged again in 3) (grrrr)

Bitch No comment. She didn't need to be in it. I hate her.

Davy Jones Omg. Where do they Get these incredible villians from? Barbarossa was the most wonderful villian - but Nighy blew me away with his performance. I'd even whisper Oscar because even with the silicon and the CGI he still acted and blew just about everyone out of the water - with no nose and no eyebrows. I was SO impressed. He even seemed human - and yes, I know how ironic that is, but bloody hell! That man deserves an Oscar just from his EYE acting. *blown away*

I also adored the little despot. I can't remember his name. Butcher? Baker? something beginning with B - at first I was dissapointed that he wasnt' - oh I don't know - Jason Isaacs, but then as the film went on I saw how it worked - he was very powerful in a Napoleonic sort of way, and quite scary. Nothing so scary as a bureaucrat with a lot of paperwork and the King behind him. Wonderful assassin too.

Fight scenes? Amazing. The 3 way fight was brilliant, just BRILLIANT. and as for the wheel, I just laughed my socks off, and there aren't many films that can make me laugh out loud, believe me.

The beginning was brilliant, the CGI was incredible - the pirates were horrible!! - Bootstrap held me in the palm of his barnacled little hand. The Black Spot was great too, I remember being really afraid of that when I read Treasure Island. Oh - and the undead monkey!! Best line "Look - an undead monkey!" (actually no, that's not the best line at all, but it really made me laugh - and feel sorry for the monkey)

And the ending? OMG I so didn't see that coming. I thought that he'd be back in the snippet after the credits, and I sat there like a lemon wondering who was coming down the stairs, (in spite of the hints Ol' Black Teeth was handing out) and Kerry and I just went SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!! and yelled at the screen "YOU CAN'T DO THAT TO US!!!!!!!" simultaneously.

I certainly didn't see any loose plot threads, or stuff I didn't understand, I enjoyed the references to the previous film, like the story he told the Guards about being made a King, and of course we didn't believe him, and look! he was telling the truth! Oh and the Slash Reference!!! *Is so happy*

Oh there's loads more, I could go on and on and on but....*grins like a fool*

I loved it - can you tell?

Date: 2006-07-19 09:13 pm (UTC)
ext_51891: (Better to Reign in Hell.)
From: [identity profile] liriaen.livejournal.com
No, really. I mean, how did you really feel about it? *GG* I think I'll have your little voice whispering in my ear over everybody's popcorn munching when it finally comes out in Germany :) And I want new film versions of "Treasure Island" and "Kidnapped" now. Like NOW. Quite possibly with members of the abovementioned cast. AND JASON. Yes.

Date: 2006-07-19 09:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
You shouldn't be reading spoilers!

I'd LOVE a faithful film of both those, I hate that they always have to embellish them.

Jason would do a great Long John.

*faints*

Date: 2006-07-19 09:25 pm (UTC)
ext_51891: (ever consummate.)
From: [identity profile] liriaen.livejournal.com
Oh, I don't mind spoilers (or rarely), they take the heat off. :) And I'd faint in synch.

Date: 2006-07-19 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maidenform.livejournal.com
OMGOMG!

Finally someone else agrees with me about Elizabeth. And Norrington OMG *dies*

Date: 2006-07-19 09:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
What she did - no excuse for it. Even if she goes to the ends of the earth to get him back - she DID it, she deserves to die.

Ideal ending - she dies, Jack and Will shack up together.

Do you know why there were (really) so many whores in Tortuga? The governor had them shipped in because it was a den of homosexuality! This is true!

Date: 2006-07-19 09:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maidenform.livejournal.com
WORD. Everyone else thinks she was doing it for all the right reasons, but I don't think so. I think she's just a bitch.

Eh, I'm a Jack/Norrington shipper meself. Mostly because I don't like Orlando Bloom or Will Turner. But, suum cuique.

HAHA that is so funny.

Icon Love!

Date: 2006-07-19 09:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rwday.livejournal.com
Your direwolf is adorable! I want one! Of course, I wanted one from the first chapter of Game of Thrones, so that's not surprising

Re: Icon Love!

Date: 2006-07-19 09:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maidenform.livejournal.com
I want one too OMG. We seriously need to get a geneticist involved. Hee.

Re: Icon Love!

Date: 2006-07-19 10:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gehayi.livejournal.com
You too? Seriously, the world NEEDS direwolves.

Re: Icon Love!

Date: 2006-07-19 11:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
ME TOO!

I also want a big black stallion, but then I've wanted one of those since I was ten.

Re: Icon Love!

Date: 2006-07-20 01:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gehayi.livejournal.com
I want a TARDIS, a lightsaber, and a sonic screwdriver. All fully functional, of course.

Re: Icon Love!

Date: 2006-07-20 02:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nagasvoice.livejournal.com
Hmm, not quite the same as a Lieutenent Data who's fully functional, but hey, throw in a Doctor or two and I'd be happy too!
No wait, not two Doctors at once. Gotta be careful about that. They argue horribly.

Re: Icon Love!

Date: 2006-07-20 03:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gehayi.livejournal.com
I want Four and Nine for adventure, and Ten for eye-candy.

Date: 2006-07-19 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rwday.livejournal.com
*bounces*

So glad you liked it! I liked it too, though not so much as you. I felt the same way about DMC as I did about Empire Strikes Back, which to me was the least satisfying of the original Star Wars trilogy, despite all the great Han/Leia dialogue. Still a great movie, just not as great as the first.

[livejournal.com profile] musesfool has collected reviews from various people if you're interested in other takes on it. And mine, which is fairly useless and incoherent is here.

Date: 2006-07-19 09:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
Thanks! I'll go and check them out!

Date: 2006-07-19 09:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunderpants.livejournal.com
I actually thought that Orly was the most vacuous waste of celluloid (probably the fact that he has one facial expression), but it's good that Kiera Knightley can match him in singular lack of charisma. Though her little tantrum on the beach was pretty great.

Date: 2006-07-19 09:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
Well yes, he only has one dimension, but it does suit being an Errol-phile so very well (I doubt he's as well hung as Errol though) He hasnt (to my mind) managed any other role as well, he does hurt puppy so well.

I just wanted to kick dirt into KK's face from shot one. GOOD! I said to Kerry as it began, "Will's seen sense and has jilted the bitch"

Date: 2006-07-19 09:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schmoo999.livejournal.com
So you liked it? Awww...now I like Elizabeth. :) Beckett is the East India Co's man..in fact he and Jack have had run ins before Jack became a pirate.

:) anyway...I have loads of good fic comms friended and there is loads of Pirate slash fic floating around...but then I guess I should not tempt you like that.

Date: 2006-07-19 09:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
I read a LOT of Will/Jack when I first discovered slash. Some pretty good Norrington/Jack too - also a load of Master and Commander slash - oh and Hornblower....

*giggles*

How could you like her? SHE KILLED HIM!!

Date: 2006-07-19 09:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schmoo999.livejournal.com
But she felt bead about it and is willing to go to World's End to find him and the Pearl again:) What can I say? I am a Het girl at heart....though hot slash fic is well ummm hot. lol.

They are both Pirates after all....:D

Date: 2006-07-20 03:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] absinthe-lust.livejournal.com
Where is all the good Sparrington? I'm just not looking in the right places. :(

Date: 2006-07-19 10:04 pm (UTC)
ext_2631: (crazy || crushedviolet)
From: [identity profile] sasha-davidovna.livejournal.com
I've always rather liked Elizabeth, but I can see how others don't. I did think the Jack/Elizabeth in this movie was kind of annoying, though. It seemed very random and tacked on to me, and I thought they had better chemistry in the first movie. Oh well. I thought her tantrum on the beach was hilarious, though.

Regarding the ending, I think she cornered him in to doing something heroic, but I also think she was absolutely right about him in her earlier speech and that by coming back to the Pearl he'd already indicated his intent to do something mad and heroic. His sudden interest in Elizabeth notwithstanding, the Pearl is his first and greatest love and I think it was the Pearl that he came back for and the Pearl that he died(?) for. I'm glad Elizabeth had the decency to feel bad for what she'd done, but I'm not sure that her action really changed the ending that significantly. At that point I think he'd already made the decision to save the Pearl or die trying. Of course, that's just my interpretation after one viewing and I'll need to watch it at least five more times before I make up my mind for sure. Oh, how painful! ;)

Date: 2006-07-19 11:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
she was right - she had him pegged completely, but goading him into taking on the Kraken single handed? She couldn't have thought he'd come out of that, she knew he'd die, and she thought he had.

and isn't it lovely we can debate Elizabeth like we debate Snape? Such genius from Buckheimer or who ever came up with it.

Date: 2006-07-19 11:49 pm (UTC)
ext_2631: (grin || sasha_davidovna)
From: [identity profile] sasha-davidovna.livejournal.com
Hehe, yes. My feelings for Snape approximate yours for Elizabeth, I fear. *g*

What I find interesting is that she didn't have faith in her own analysis of him. As I said above, I think she was absolutely right about him and he would have done something much like he did anyway, but by trusting neither Jack himself (which I find easier to excuse) nor her own judgement about him, she cost him, at the very least, time. Time that would have been better spent in just about any possible way than struggling to free himself from the shackles!

Date: 2006-07-19 10:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] katiemorris.livejournal.com
Elizabeth's a cow. She was okay as a child and I didn't mind her in the first film, but what she did to Jack - and Will's face when he watched her snog Jack - I'll never forgive her either. BITCH!

Date: 2006-07-19 11:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
Will's face just broke me.

Date: 2006-07-19 11:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunderpants.livejournal.com
(Truthfully, I couldn't tell the difference between that facial expression and any of his others. Does this make me a bad person?)

Date: 2006-07-20 12:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
yes, but I wouldn't have you any other way.

Date: 2006-07-20 12:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sesptwd.livejournal.com
Wait--what happened after the credits? The girl and I were waiting, but she her coke was torturing her tooo much.

Date: 2006-07-20 12:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
it was a little pointless and i'd already guessed what was going to happen - NOTHING like the foreshadowing (or at lease i hope not) of the first movie. The cannibals made the dog their chief, which, as eumenides says above, make me worry for the dog.

Date: 2006-07-20 12:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sesptwd.livejournal.com
btw---I'm with you on the Elizabethness.

Date: 2006-07-20 12:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
yay! that's a good few of us! I don't get "she is snape and her actions were ambigious" she sacrificied Jack and there's no excuse.

Date: 2006-07-20 12:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sesptwd.livejournal.com
Despite her trying to go against the normal girly rules of that time, I still think she's a spoiled little rich girl who would do anything to get her way. That temper tantrum on the beach was simply pathetic. The only time I sort of liked her was with Pintel and Ragetti. Because that's where she should be--in the background.

Date: 2006-07-20 12:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schmoo999.livejournal.com
*psssst* Jack was going to go down with his beloved Pearl no matter what Elizabeth did....part of why he came back.

just saying The Pearl IS more than a mere ship.

Date: 2006-07-20 01:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dementedsiren.livejournal.com
I also adored the little despot. I can't remember his name.

Cutler Beckett. Beckett, Beckett, Beckett. Who deserves to have had hot, horribly wrong slightly ambigously consensual sex with Jack while Jack was in captivity.

No, this has not been on my mind every single moment since seeing the movie. Not at all...

Date: 2006-07-20 06:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
He really does, doesn't he.

Keeping all of his clothes on too.

I'm going to hell!!

Date: 2006-07-20 03:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] villainslair.livejournal.com
no one else has said it, so I feel I must...forgive me. it's "Barbossa" not Barbarossa.

*grins* that aside, I definitely agree with...about 99% of everything you said. Elizabeth, Sparrow, Norrington, etc... also interestingly enough, if you were watching when Jack brought in the monkey to Tia Dalma and she let him go? he went to the other room where a certain pair of boots were laying... (ok, so I noticed better the 2nd time watching that he was there the whole time.)

so very glad to see you liked it so much.

Date: 2006-07-20 06:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
forgive me I was rather drunk when I posted!

And good call with the boots! Missed that entirely!

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Re: Norrington - no white wigs again ever

Date: 2006-07-20 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
Yes! my fave line too! Unsurprisingly!

*G*

Date: 2006-07-20 09:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] andsaca369.livejournal.com
Dibs on Norrington.

Just sayin'....

Date: 2006-07-20 06:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erastes.livejournal.com
Noooooooooooooooo!!!!!

Date: 2006-07-20 06:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] andsaca369.livejournal.com
Mine. :\

Although I prefer him with the wig, so you can have Scruffington all to yourself. *g*

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